The same also goes for tunnel brokers and other mechanisms using the
proto41 forwarding.   But this is a v6ops thing not ipv6 wg.

tim

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 11:57:10PM +0800, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> In fact, it will be very good if you can tell me (private email to avoid 
> brands/models here) what router or NAT box are you using,
> so I can include it in my survey.
> 
> Same for other people that has used this ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> Jordi
> 
> PS: By the way, yes, you can use any of the computers after the NAT as the IPv6 
> router. I'm doing it right now, in my hotel room,
> and I see some other people using my IPv6 prefix, for free, being my laptop the 
> router ! You can read the last draft (-02 waiting in
> the editors queue) and also this document
> http://www.euro6ix.org/documentation/euro6ix_co_upm-consulintel_wp4_ipv6_tunnels_nat_v1_6.pdf.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tim Chown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:28 PM
> Subject: Re: A host who has private IPv4 address can communicate with IPv6 host 
> globaly by 6to4 tunnel
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes, this will work.  This technique is quite widely used, and is one
> > reason for this draft:
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-palet-v6ops-proto41-nat-01.txt
> >
> > Essentially you forward the protocol 41 from the NAT to the internal host.
> >
> > It is quite a popular "trick" with our students in their home DSL LANs.
> >
> > The problem is that this only works for one host within the NAT network,
> > so if the NAT encompasses many sites, you're stuck.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tim
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 07:03:44PM +0900, Jisuek.Lim wrote:
> > >
> > >    Hello all,
> > >
> > >    I have a idea about communication method with 6to4 tunnel.
> > >
> > >    Generally,  we think a host who has private IPv4 address(because it is
> > >    behind  NAT  device)  can  not  communicate with IPv6 host globally by
> > >    tunneling(6to4,  config  tunnel  ..)  But  there  is  a way using 6to4
> > >    tunnel.
> > >
> > >    When  we config 6to4 config on a host(for example windows2000 station)
> > >    we  assign  the host's IPv4 address to the host's 6to4 address(next to
> > >    2002:).  And  we  know  the  host's  IPv4 address shoud be public IPv4
> > >    address.
> > >
> > >    But,  if  we  use  the  public  IPv4  address which is on NAT device's
> > >    external  interface  to  make  the  host's  6to4 address, the host can
> > >    communicate  with  IPv6  host  globally  using  6to4  tunnel and relay
> > >    router. Following are do list.
> > >
> > >    1.       Map the NAT device's public address(select one) to the host's
> > >    private address(configure on the NAT)
> > >
> > >    2.        On  the  NAT  device,  make  a policy which permit incomming
> > >    traffic which has protocol number 41 to the host's private address
> > >
> > >    3.        Change  the  NAT  device's  public  IPv4  address(which  you
> > >    selected) to hex. format.
> > >
> > >    4.       Configure the host's 6to4 address using upper hex.
> > >
> > >    5.        Add  route  table  for 2002 traffic to tunnel interface, and
> > >    ::/0 to relay router(relay router is provided by some orgnization)
> > >
> > >
> > >    And  then,...try ping6 to any IPv6 address. following is the result of
> > >    my own test.
> > >
> > >
> > >    C:\>ping6 6to4.ipv6.fh-regensburg.de
> > >
> > >    Pinging 6to4.ipv6.fh-regensburg.de [2002:c25f:6cbf:1::1] with 32 bytes
> > >    of data:
> > >
> > >
> > >    Reply from 2002:c25f:6cbf:1::1: bytes=32 time=330ms
> > >
> > >    Reply from 2002:c25f:6cbf:1::1: bytes=32 time=329ms
> > >
> > >    Reply from 2002:c25f:6cbf:1::1: bytes=32 time=329ms
> > >
> > >
> > >    C:\>
> > >
> > >    C:\>ping6 www.kame.net
> > >
> > >
> > >    Pinging  orange.kame.net  [2001:200:0:8002:203:47ff:fea5:3085] with 32
> > >    bytes of data:
> > >
> > >
> > >    Reply from 2001:200:0:8002:203:47ff:fea5:3085: bytes=32 time=117ms
> > >
> > >    Reply from 2001:200:0:8002:203:47ff:fea5:3085: bytes=32 time=72ms
> > >
> > >    Reply from 2001:200:0:8002:203:47ff:fea5:3085: bytes=32 time=68ms
> > >
> > >    Reply from 2001:200:0:8002:203:47ff:fea5:3085: bytes=32 time=71ms
> > >
> > >
> > >    C:\>
> > >
> > >
> > >    Following is my computer's IP config
> > >
> > >
> > >    C:\>ipconfig
> > >
> > >
> > >    Windows 2000 IP Configuration
> > >
> > >
> > >    Ethernet adapter :
> > >
> > >
> > >            Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
> > >
> > >            IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.60
> > >
> > >            Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > >
> > >            Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
> > >
> > >
> > >    C:\>
> > >
> > >
> > >    as you know 192.168.1.60 is private address !!
> > >
> > >    Try it.
> > >
> > >    Thanks.
> > >
> > >    Jisuek. Lim
> >
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