On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 10:14:02AM -0700, Alain Durand wrote:
> Let me try to explain why I, as an implementor, do not like the M/O 
> bits very much.
> ...

Alain,

Could you explain how the functionality of the O/M bits will be replaced
within the ND/etc protocols?  Or should they not be replaced?

Until now, most people have not worried about DNS resolver discovery because
they run dual-stack networks (and thus use IPv4 transport DNS), but hosts
autoconfiguring in an IPv6-only environment need a method to get DNS and 
other configuration info.  I agree they can just try DHCPv6, rather than
being told to do so.  So is your argument that the client should decide which 
protocols to try, as per IPv4, rather than be "forced" to use DHCPv6 when 
DHCPv6 may not be secure?  

But whether the client decides to use DHCP, or an RA tells it to do so, there 
is no way to know whether the DHCP response is from a real or malicious server
(who uses authenticated DHCP? :).   And if you're not using DHCP you trust 
the RA for the network settings anyway.   So isn't SEND the answer to this, 
rather than deprecating flags?   You either run in an authenticated/trusted 
environment, or you don't...

At present I would agree with the WG chairs' view.

Tim

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