On Dec 7, 2004, at 17:25, Mark Andrews wrote:


Hi,

OK. Lot of shouting since this was sent but not much new text.

How about

Locally assigned ULA AAAA records MUST NOT appear in the global DNS,
since there is an extremely small probability that the corresponding
addresses are not unique. Even though these addresses will be
unrouteable in the global Internet, their leakage via DNS is highly
undesirable. Such AAAA records MAY appear in local regions of the DNS
corresponding to their region of routeability.

(And I would put an equivalent SHOULD NOT on centrally assigned ULAs.)

While I am sure everyone in this discussion has read the DNS text in the
current draft, here it is just in case:

    4.4 DNS Issues

At the present time AAAA and PTR records for locally assigned local
IPv6 addresses are not recommended to be installed in the global DNS.
The operational issues relating to this are beyond the scope of this
document.

For background on this recommendation, the concern about adding AAAA
and PTR records to the global DNS for locally assigned local IPv6
addresses stems from the lack of complete assurance that the prefixes
are unique. There is a small possibility that the same PTR record
might be registered by two different organizations. Due to this
concern, adding AAAA records is thought to be unwise because matching
PTR records can not be registered.

This text (in my view) is more or less equivalent to what is proposed
above. The text in the draft doesn't use the upper case MUST/SHOULD
language since this part of the document is operational guidelines and that
language doesn't seem appropriate. I suppose something with lower case
must/should would work.

My personal view is that this is about all we can say now in this
document. I continue to think that what is needed is a separate draft that
discusses this topic in detail. This document might even relax the
recommendation if warranted. It would be a good place to describe
different approaches to the locally and centrally assigned ULAs as well.

Chair hat on:

The -08 draft is currently in the IESG. Almost all of the Discuss votes
have been cleared. If we can go with the current text it may result in the
document being approved soon. The more we try to fine tune it there is a
risk of further delay.

It would be good if we could move forward on this document.

Bob

Which completely ignores the operational problems caused by leaking reverse lookups. We know these will exist and we need to take steps to prevent them.

        The only complaint I saw against my proposed text was the level
        of proscription against adding AAAA LAU LAs to the global DNS.

        Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.


The concern I have with putting these operational recommendations in
this document is that they are applicable to other scenarios (e.g. net 10
addresses in the global DNS).

So it seems more reasonable to have a generic guidelines document
that discusses address placement in DNS.

Regards,
Brian

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