> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Soliman, Hesham wrote:
 > [lifetimes which decrement in real time]
 > > > > > ==> AFAIK, the first option has not been implemented; I've
 > > > > > at least not seen
 > > > > > in done.  Therefore unless someone shows that there are two
 > > > > > implementations
 > > > > > of this, this must be removed. (The same for
 > > > > > AdvPreferredLifetime, and a bit
 > > > > > in section 6.2.7.)
 > >
 > > => We were told this is implemented in Solaris I believe.
 > 
 > One implementation is not sufficient for DS.
 > 
 > However, even if there was a second implementation (probably yes) 
 > don't you think it's ridiculous that spec says MUST, while only one 
 > implementation has heeded that advice?
 > 
 > I suggest making it a SHOULD or MAY so it better reflects 
 > the reality.

=> I thought I already agreed to making it a MAY. I'll make it a
MAY.

 > > > > >     A proxy MAY multicast Neighbor Advertisements when
 > > > its link-layer
 > > > > >     address changes or when it is configured (by system
 > > > management or
 > > > > >     other mechanisms) to proxy for an address.  If there
 > > > are multiple
 > > > > >     nodes that are providing proxy services for the same set
 > > > > > of addresses
 > > > > >     the proxies SHOULD provide a mechanism that prevents
 > > > > > multiple proxies
 > > > > >     from multicasting advertisements for any one
 > > > address, in order to
 > > > > >     reduce the risk of excessive multicast traffic.
 > > > > >
 > > > > > ==> does anyone implement this SHOULD?  Note that 
 > this does not
 > > > > > give hints how to even go about doing that.  If not, remove.
 > > > >
 > >
 > > => As mentioned earlier by Erik, this is a requirement on 
 > other specs
 > > using proxy ND. MIPv6 is an example of such protocol. I 
 > think this makes
 > > sense as a requirement.  So let's keep it.
 > 
 > Erik said,
 > 
 > "As I said above, I think the MIPv6 RFC is the "implementation" in 
 > this case. But it does make sense to clarify that the text 
 > is about a 
 > requirement on other protocols which use proxy ND."
 > 
 > A clarification would be fine by me.  This is not a requirement for 
 > RFC2461 implementors, but rather those specs which use proxying.

=> Sure.

 > 
 > > > > >       Inbound load balancing - Nodes with replicated
 > > > > > interfaces may want
 > > > > >             to load balance the reception of incoming
 > > > packets across
 > > > > >             multiple network interfaces on the same
 > > > link.  Such nodes
 > > > > >             have multiple link-layer addresses assigned
 > > > to the same
 > > > > >             interface.  For example, a single network
 > > > driver could
 > > > > >             represent multiple network interface cards
 > > > as a single
 > > > > >             logical interface having multiple link-layer
 > > > addresses.
 > > > > >
 > > > > >             Load balancing is handled by allowing
 > > > routers to omit the
 > > > > >             source link-layer address from Router
 > > > > > Advertisement packets,
 > > > > > [...]
 > > > > >
 > > > > > ==> this is conflicting.  The first para discusses
 > > > generic inbound
 > > > > > load balancing, the second load balancing that 
 > applies only to
 > > > > > routers w/ RAs. How do hosts perform inbound load balancing?
 > > > > > Needs text tweaking..
 > > > >
 > >
 > > => Erik responded:
 > >
 > >     Leaving the first paragraph as is, since it is 
 > basically explaining the term,
 > >     and adding something before the second paragraph that 
 > "Neighbor Discovery
 > >     allows a router to load balance traffic towards itself 
 > if the router has
 > >     multiple MAC addresses by ..."
 > >
 > > => I think this is fine so I'll add it to the doc.
 > 
 > This does not solve my wording issue.  The paragraph just describes 
 > how _routers_ perform inbound load balancing.  How about hosts which 
 > don't send RAs?

=> What do you suggest? 

Hesham

 > 
 > -- 
 > Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
 > Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
 > Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
 > 

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