>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:17:33 +0300 (EEST),
>>>>> Pekka Savola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>> I can think of several possible resolutions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. just say that it's host/network administrator's responsibility to
>>>> provide consistent parameters/configurations. In this sense, the
>>>> combination of a) and b) above is just a configuration error.
>>>> This would be the most lightweight resolution for the authors:-),
>>>> but I personally think it's irresponsible.
>>>
>>> I agree as well. This is not good enough.
>>
>> I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that a configuration
>> mismatch is admin error and leave it at that - in this case, the RAs are
>> configured incorrectly, promising that a non-existent address assignment
>> service is available.
> That would be consistent if the presence of M-flag would only trigger
> DHCPv6 for address assignment, but DHCPv6 would not be used to
> configure anything else at all unless O-flag was also appropriately
> set.
> Then the DHCPv6 and DHCPv6-lite would function in a similar fashion
> from the network administrator's perspective.
> So, IMHO, either we must require O flag always for Information
> Configuration (whether DHCPv6 full or lite) or support the
> administrators who can't make out the subtle difference about the
> appropriate configuration of the flags. For that, guidance for full
> DHCPv6 implementers to also try emulating DHCPv6 lite would probably
> be sufficient.
I've been thinking about this issue for a while, and I now feel it may
require a more profound discussion than I originally thought...
Here are some background points:
- In original RFC2462, if ManagedFlag (host's variable corresponding
to the M flag of RA) is TRUE, it implicitly means OtherConfigFlag is
also TRUE (Section 5.2). It would mean if we receive an RA with
M=on (whether O=on or off), the receiving host would start the
"stateful" protocol (which we now know is DHCPv6) for address
configuration *and* the "stateful" protocol for configuration
information excluding addresses (Section 5.5.3).
- In the past discussion about the M/O flag document, we clarified
that the notion of "M" and "O" is quite independent. That is, "M"
means the "Host Configuration Behavior", which, more specifically,
means DHCPv6 Solicit/Advertise/Request/Reply/... exchanges; "O"
means the "Information Configuration Behavior", which means DHCPv6
an Information-request/Reply exchange. Unlike RFC2462, there is no
implicit dependency between "O-Flag" (renamed from OtherConfigFlag
to avoid confusion) and the M flag in this document. So, for
example, the host does not invoke the "Information Configuration
Behavior" just because the M flag in an RA is ON.
I guess the slightly different sense led us to the current confusion
(or problem).
If we respect both the original sense of RFC2462 and our consensus
about the semantics separation of the M/O flags, I believe the right
solution is the following:
- allow (or even require) running the Host Configuration Behavior
and the Information Configuration Behavior concurrently. (note:
this is a significant change from the current M/O document)
- note that the same type of configuration information (e.g.,
recursive DNS server addresses) can be obtained with those two
behaviors, and that how to deal with possible inconsistency is
beyond the scope of the M/O document.
- also note that the network administrator should by default provide
the Information Configuration Behavior when they provide the Host
Configuration Behavior, in which case both the M and O flags
should be set to ON in router advertisements.
With the last notice, I'm fine with the position of saying "it's
administrator's responsibility to ensure service consistency".
JINMEI, Tatuya
Communication Platform Lab.
Corporate R&D Center, Toshiba Corp.
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