John - My understanding is that the selection of SLAAC addresses is
separate from the use of DHCP; that is, a host may be in a scenario in
which it uses both an address chosen through SLAAC and an address
assigned through a DHCP message exchange.  So, the availability of a
SLAAC address should not affect the use of DHCP.

- Ralph

On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 12:24 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> Jari & Hesham,
> 
> > >=> :) I don't want them to charge users for Ralph's implementation :)
> > >But seriously, charging is one thing, inefficient use of power is 
> > >another serious problem which can actually reduce revenue because
> > >a device doesn't go dormant long enough and runs out of battery 
> > >instead of using that battery power for what the user actually wants
> > >to do.
> > >  
> > >
> > I tend to agree with Hesham that we should attempt to design
> > our protocols so that unnecessary periodic probing over wireless
> > is minimized. One thing that should be kept in mind is that most
> > people want their devices to be always on and reachable, but yet
> > they might actually use them for something only a very small
> > fraction of the time. Even a tiny amount of traffic during the
> > inactive period may thus result in a relatively large impact
> > when you compare it to actual useful traffic. This in turn
> > translates to battery lifetimes and cost for the users.
> 
> Basically, what I think we'd like is that if a device has a working
> address and is 'attached' to a network, it should probably use that
> address and only probe upon some failure event.  When the device
> shows up to a new network, it can probe and if it gets a DHCP address,
> then use it, and update the address before the lease expires.  If
> the device gets a valid address via autoconfig, then it should continue
> to use that.  It doesn't make much sense that a node should continually
> verify if it should use a DHCP address if it has an otherwise working
> address.
> 
> Note that many applications will run sometime of watchdog or heartbeat
> to ensure that application is still alive on both ends.  If this fails,
> that might be a clue to check if the IP address is still valid.  I
> agree that having probing at multiple layers is a bad design, IMO.
> 
> John
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