m == use dhc for addresses, o == use dhc for just configuration bow do
you do this with one bit? neither m or o not set says don't use dhc.
thus my reason for ternary.

thx
/jim 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Ralph Droms
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org
> Subject: [dhcwg] RE: purpose of m/o bit
> 
> Mat - thanks for your review and input.  I specified the two bits only
> for backward compatibility with existing implementations.
> 
> I imagine we could design a specification that retains one bit and
> deprecates the other, with rules about the appearance of the depre
> backward compatibility.  At least, this spec would need a note
> explaining why there are two bits in the spec and 
> recommending that new
> implementations use, for example, just the M bit.
> 
> - Ralph
> 
> On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 13:41 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Ralph Droms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Seems to me I'm hearing two requirements out of this thread:
> > > 
> > > 1) Ability to indicate to a host "DHCP is not available 
> on this link",
> > >    with the expectation that the host won't send any DHCP messages
> > > 
> > > 2) Ability for a host to get all desired and available DHCP
> > >    configuration with a single DHCP message exchange
> > >    - if a host wants HCB, it sends an HCB request (Solicit)
> > > and receives
> > >      HCB and/or ICB replies
> > >    - if a host wants ICB, it sends an ICB request
> > > (Information-request)
> > >      and receives ICB replies
> > > 
> > > 1 is a requirement in scenarios with limited resources (e.g.,
> > > wireless), where polling for DHCP is unacceptable.  2 is a
> > > requirement to avoid timeout delays or other complexity in getting
> > > ICB reply when 
> > > host would
> > > prefer HCB reply.
> > > 
> > > If I've got that right, we can meet the two requirements 
> with a couple
> > > of small updates to existing specs:
> > > 
> > > 1) If an RA is received with the M and/or the O bit is set, DHCP
> > >    service is available over the link through which the RA
> > > was received
> > >    (no differentiation between HCB and ICB DHCP)
> > > 
> > > 2) If a DHCP server receives an HCB request (Solicit) but can only
> > >    supply an ICB, the server can respond with the ICB 
> reply (note that
> > >    according RFC 3115, the server would respond with an "HCB-nak"
> > >    [Advertise containing only an error code])
> > > 
> > > In addition to meeting the requirements, these updates 
> are mostly (if
> > > not entirely) operationally compatible with existing clients and
> > > servers. 
> > 
> > I completely agree with this analysis and support proceeding on this
> > basis. But it does beg the question, why do we need two 
> bits to signal a
> > binary condition?
> > 
> >  -- Mat
> 
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