Ralph,

Thanks, but I think I am now more confused. I draw the opposite conclusion if the planned usage is different from what is in RFC3162. How is an implementor supposed to know this if it isn't written down?

For now, I suggest treating this issue as an response to the IETF last call.

Thanks,
Bob


On May 26, 2006, at 11:36 AM, ext Ralph Droms wrote:

Bob - the draft used to contain the following text:

   The Delegated-IPv6-Prefix attribute is related to the Framed-IPv6-
   Prefix attribute [1]; it differs from the Framed-IPv6-Prefix
   attribute in its intended usage.  The prefix in the Delegated-IPv6-
   Prefix attribute is delegated to another entity, while the Framed-
IPv6-Prefix attribute is under the control of the NAS. For example,
   the prefix in a Delegated-IPv6-Prefix attribute can be delegated to
another node through DHCP Prefix Delegation [2], while the prefix in a Framed-IPv6-Prefix attribute can be assigned to a link to which the
   NAS is attached, and subsequently advertised through Router
   Advertisement messages [3].

[1] Aboba, B., Zorn, G., and D. Mitton, "RADIUS and IPv6", RFC 3162,
        August 2001.

   [2]  Troan, O. and R. Droms, "IPv6 Prefix Options for Dynamic Host
        Configuration Protocol (DHCP) version 6", RFC 3633,
        December 2003.

   [3]  Narten, T., Nordmark, E., and W. Simpson, "Neighbor Discovery
        for IP Version 6 (IPv6)", RFC 2461, December 1998.

But this text extrapolates a bit on the text that actually appears in RFC 3162, and the inclusion of the text here started a discussion about the intended use of the Framed-IPv6-Prefix. So, to avoid entanglements with any revisions to RFC 3162, draft-ietf-radext-delegated-prefix simply remains
silent on the issue.

- Ralph


On 5/26/06 2:23 PM, "Bob Hinden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ralph,

On May 26, 2006, at 11:12 AM, ext Ralph Droms wrote:

Bob - RFC 3633 [2] suggests the use of Framed-IPv6-Prefix option to
carry
the customer prefix from the provisioning database through RADIUS
to the
DHCPv6 PD delegating router.  That use of Framed-IPv6-Prefix
overloads other
uses of the attribute to carry the prefix to be assigned to the
link between
the NAS and the CPE.  This new I-D defines a new RADIUS attribute
to be used
expressly for a prefix to be delegated to the CPE for use in the
network
behind the CPE.

Thanks for the explanation!  I think it would be good if something
like the above text was added to the draft.  The current text can be
interpreted in several ways and seems to allow other usage.  For
example, the scenario you describe is cited as an example.

Note: I am not against do this at all, I just want the document to be
clear in it's intended usage.

Thanks,
Bob


- Ralph


On 5/26/06 2:02 PM, "Bob Hinden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

FYI.  Has anyone looked at this?  From the Introduction:

    1.  Introduction

    The Delegated-IPv6-Prefix is a RADIUS attribute [1] that
carries an
    IPv6 prefix to be delegated to the user.  For example, the
prefix in
    a Delegated-IPv6-Prefix attribute can be delegated to another
node
    through DHCP Prefix Delegation [2].

I infer from this that the intent is for a DHCPv6 server to get a
prefix from an Radius/Diameter authentication check it will later
delegate to the user.   This seems OK to me, but it would also seem
to provide for another general way to delegate IPv6 prefixes.  I
think that the draft needs more explination on it's intended usage.
Or is this an IPv6 version of something that exists in IPv4?

Comments?

Bob


Begin forwarded message:

From: "ext The IESG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: May 26, 2006 6:50:41 AM PDT
To: IETF-Announce <[email protected]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Last Call: 'RADIUS Delegated-IPv6-Prefix Attribute' to
Proposed  Standard (draft-ietf-radext-delegated-prefix)
Reply-To: [email protected]

The IESG has received a request from the RADIUS EXTensions WG to
consider the
following document:

- 'RADIUS Delegated-IPv6-Prefix Attribute '
   <draft-ietf-radext-delegated-prefix-01.txt> as a Proposed
Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and
solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send any comments to the
[email protected] or [email protected] mailing lists by 2006-06-09.

The file can be obtained via
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-radext-delegated-
prefix-01.txt


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