> 
 > Hesham - you're suggested revisions are fine with me.

=> Ok, thanks!

 > 
 > One typo - in the text for the on-link flag, s/addresse/address/

=> Done.

 > 
 > And, at the risk of being overly picky, after searching 
 > through the RFC for
 > occurrences of "autoconfiguration", it seems there is some 
 > inconsistency in
 > the use of other related terms, like autoconfiguration and address
 > autoconfiguration (used for both SLAAC and DHCP).
 > 
 > The definition in the terminology section seems OK:
 > 
 >      Address Autoconfiguration: How nodes automatically configure an
 >                 address for an interface.
 > 
 > ...referring to both stateless address autoconfiguration and DHCP.
 > 
 > Howvever, at the end of section 2.3:
 > 
 >                  (e.g., while verifying an address is unused
 >                  during address autoconfiguration [ADDRCONF])
 > 
 > While this is not normative text, I use it as an example.  
 > If, in this case,
 > "address autoconfiguration" refers to just SLAAC, it should 
 > be "stateless
 > address autoconfiguration".  On the other hand, if "address
 > autoconfiguration" is correct, then there should be a 
 > reference to DHCPv6
 > (RFC 3315) as well as [ADDRCONF].
 > 
 > As another example, at the end of section 4.2:
 > 
 >       Prefix Information
 >                      These options specify the prefixes that 
 > are on-link
 >                      and/or are used for address autoconfiguration.
 > 
 > Here, the reference should be to "stateless address 
 > autoconfiguration"; the
 > prefix information is not used by a host using DHCP.

=> Understood. I'll do a search and change it where it needs to be changed,
I'm assuming the above doesn't cover all places. 

 > 
 > I apologize for noticing this issue at the last minute.  In 
 > response to the
 > question about "stateless autoconfiguration" and "autonomous
 > autoconfiguration", I wanted to see if there were other phrases using
 > "autoconfiguration".  That search lead to the discovery of 
 > the inconsistent
 > uses of "autoconfiguration".

=> No problems, they're all good catches. Thanks for your feedback and quick
response. 
I intend to submit the draft tomorrow.

Hesham

 > 
 > - Ralph
 > 
 > 
 > On 1/5/07 3:40 AM, "Hesham Soliman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > 
 > > Hello again, 
 > > 
 > > This is a follow up on the comments we discussed earlier. 
 > Ralph, please let
 > > me know if you're ok with my suggestions below. The 
 > document is waiting on
 > > your response! The rest of your comments are all in the document.
 > > 
 > >>>> I think this is general advice to people thinking about
 > >>> how ND applies
 > >>>> to link layers other than, say, ethernet. Clearly, ND
 > >>> applies to all
 > >>>> specs, unless superceded by another spec for a particular link
 > >>>> layer. That is all that this section is (IMO) trying to
 > >>> say. I.e., to
 > >>>> suggest when another spec might be needed and where not.
 > >>> 
 > >>> I think I understand the meaning the text is supposed to
 > >>> convey.  But the
 > >>> text doesn't seem (to me, anyway) to convey that meaning
 > >>> very well; I note
 > >>> your interpretation is qualified with "IMO" and perhaps
 > >>> another reader might
 > >>> have a different opinion?
 > >>> 
 > >>> To be more concrete, it appears that the section is
 > >>> describing how or which
 > >>> parts of ND should be implemented on links with certain
 > >>> attributes.  But the
 > >>> last several entries don't seem to be very clear or precise.
 > >> 
 > >> => Ok, does anyone object to removing that statement from 
 > the spec?
 > >> The statemement I'm referring to is the one Ralph refers to above:
 > >> "Neighbor Discovery should be implemented as described in
 > >> this document."
 > >> It seems superfluous anyway.
 > > 
 > > => So here is the text for the section in question:
 > > 
 > >   point-to-point - Neighbor Discovery handles such links just like
 > >                    multicast links.  (Multicast can be trivially
 > >                    provided on point-to-point links, and interfaces
 > >                    can be assigned link-local addresses.)
 > > 
 > > 
 > >   multicast      - Neighbor Discovery supports multicast capable
 > >                    links as described in this document.
 > > 
 > > 
 > >>> Yeah, I agree the text means "don't draw any conclusions
 > >> about on- or
 > >>> off-link is L bit is not set".  What are the ramifications
 > >>> of the L bit not
 > >>> being set; what other parts of this or other protocols
 > >> are affected?
 > >> 
 > >> => If the L bit is not set a host cannot assume that an
 > >> address is on-link, therefore it will send all packets to
 > >> its Default router, unless a redirect is received for a
 > >> particular address.
 > > 
 > > => I've clarified the definition a bit more:
 > > 
 > >    L              1-bit on-link flag.  When set, indicates 
 > that this
 > >                   prefix can be used for on-link 
 > determination.  When
 > >                   not set the advertisement makes no 
 > statement about
 > >                   on-link or off-link properties of the prefix. In
 > >                   other words, if the L flag is not set a host MUST
 > >                   NOT assume that an addresse derived from 
 > the prefix
 > >                   is on-link unless it is explicitly told 
 > in another
 > >                   message (e.g. Redirect). For instance, the prefix
 > >                   might be used for address configuration with some
 > >                   of the addresses belonging to the prefix 
 > being on-
 > >                   link and others being off-link.
 > > 
 > > Any objections?
 > >  
 > >>> Except for its use in supplying the initial for the 'A'
 > >> bit in prefix
 > >>> options...
 > >> 
 > >> => I agree. So how about we state in the document that the
 > >> terms "stateless autoconfiguration" and "autonomous
 > >> autoconfiguration" are used interchangeably? People are
 > >> familiar with the meaning of the A flag and with the term
 > >> "stateless autoconfig", removing either one is probably
 > >> going to add more confusion than clarity. It might have to
 > >> be one of those imperfections of a doc that developed over a
 > >> long time. Is this ok?
 > > 
 > > => Is this ok?
 > > 
 > > 
 > > Hesham
 > 



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