On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:12:12 -0700
Scott Leibrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jeroen Massar wrote:
> 
> > The above hosts are Internet connected and most likely will thus also 
> > end up
> > talking to the Internet at one point or another. I can thus only guess that
> > they will be wanting to fully connect to the Internet one day and the
> > generic solution to that problem is NAT. We wanted to get rid of NAT for
> > IPv6. If NAT is again being done for IPv6 then we can just as well give up
> > and just keep on using IPv4 as there really is not a single advantage then
> > anymore to IPv6.
> >
> >   
> I think what we wanted to get rid of in IPv6 was one-to-many NAT, also 
> know as PAT (among other names).  In IPv6, we can stick to one-to-one 
> NAT, which eliminates most of the nastiness we associate with NAT in 
> today's IPv4 world.
> 

Getting rid of PAT doesn't eliminate a number of other problems that
NAT creates, which Keith Moore has documented here :

http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/what-nats-break.html

I particularly think inhibiting deploying new transport layer protocols
is a real drawback of NAT. It seems that VoIP might be the next "killer
app" for the Internet, and DCCP would be ideal for it. Unfortunately, I
think the IPv4 NATs out there are going to prevent it getting any
deployment traction over IPv4.

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