Hi Thomas/Hermant

I will put together 2-3 pages as Thomas suggest on the main "crooks of the 
issue" at hand in BBF. I was intending on coming to IETF and presenting the 
issue in detail at the SAVI working Group this week but due to other work 
commitments it was not possible. However my colleague Suresh Krishnan is 
attending and you can discuss the issue with him if this needs to be addressed 
more urgently.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Hemant Singh (shemant)
Sent: November 7, 2009 4:40 AM
To: Thomas Narten; Stark, Barbara
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; james woodyatt; 
[email protected]; IPv6 Operations; IETF IPv6 Mailing List
Subject: RE: [savi] Broadband Forum liaison to IETF on IPv6 security

I agree with Thomas.  The reason I and Wes could reply with some ideas is 
because we are familiar with the cable deployment and contributed text for ND 
Proxy behavior in cable standards.  A start for diagram may be RFC4779 that DSL 
folks should look at and tell us what they talking about.  If a DSL deployment 
doesn't exist in RFC4779, then for long-term one should bis RFC4779 to include 
the new DSL deployment so that all can reference a common doc and discuss 
deployment problems for IPv6.

Hemant

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas 
Narten
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:18 PM
To: Stark, Barbara
Cc: [email protected]; SAVI Mailing List; [email protected]; james 
woodyatt; [email protected]; IPv6 Operations; IETF IPv6 Mailing List
Subject: Re: [savi] Broadband Forum liaison to IETF on IPv6 security

> The liaison was posted in March 2009. It can be found here:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/file621.doc

This is too skimpy of problem statement for me to understand the details of the 
problem.

I don't know that a lot is needed. Maybe 2-3 pages is enough. But show me a 
diagram, label the pieces, show me the properties of the pieces and explain 
what the *exact* problem is. Who needs to do DAD? Why doesn't it work? etc.

And note that comments like (quoting from the above statement):

  "We can envision a number of scenarios, both malice or vendor
   incompetence by which this can happen."

There is very little anyone can do to prevent "vendor incompetence". I hope you 
aren't asking the IETF to solve this problem! :-)

Thomas
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