Hi Brian,

On 2010/08/02, at 13:04, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> Since I wasn't in Maastricht, let me give some quick answers:
> 
> On 2010-07-28 17:44, Arifumi Matsumoto wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> At the yesterday's 6man session, the design team suggested three main points.
>> Though it was decided to discuss more about this issue of address selection 
>> at this mailing list, I'd like to see to how much extent those suggestions 
>> were accepted by the 6man people *now*.
>> 
>> This is important, because not delaying the standardization of the basic 
>> mechanism is one of the main suggestion from the DT. And because it 
>> determines if any further work at DT is necessary or not.
>> 
>> The three main points were:
>> 
>> - separating the basic mechanism from other advanced mechanisms/features.
>>  The policy merging process should be host issue, and we need to focus on 
>> network issue of delivering protocol, because host issue can be implemented 
>> in the same way of other configuration information.
>>  And, another separation is the frequently updating of policy mainly from 
>> the help of routing mechanisms, such as ICMP errors from routers. From our 
>> consideration, many of the cases do not need such a frequent updates of 
>> policy. Moreover, such a dynamic case forces a host to react dynamically, 
>> and this involves host protocol stack renovation, just like shim6 and mptcp, 
>> and so on.
>>  The basic mechanism is powerful enough to solve many problems and harmless 
>> enough to keep RFC3484 as it is, and should not be delayed because of these 
>> advanced/future mechanisms.
> 
> I agree. The basic mechanism needs to be a reasonably small change,
> to have a chance of widespread deployment. Going to a very dynamic mechanism
> is a much more ambitious project.

I believe this separation of RFC3484-based mechanisms, and clean slate 
mechanisms should be a good way forward. Because we have to manage RFC-3484 
based implementations for not a short period, and we can discuss about 
clean-slate mechanisms as long as you like.

>> - as the delivering protocol, DHCP should be the most appropriate choice, 
>> considering the target environments.
> 
> I agree. I think we should assume that the default policy will be
> adequate for sites/hosts that are using SLAAC only.
> 
> 
>> - the RFC 3484 revision needs to be done.
>>  Maybe this point needs no poll any more.
>>  This point was accepted and now in confirmation process in the ML.
> 
> Sure
> 
>>  I think, if we agree this kind of minor revision of RFC 3484, we also 
>> agreed we carry on the existing model for some years, or we need a solution 
>> that does not renovate the existing model.
> 
> Not sure I understand what you mean here by "renovate".
> 

Sorry for my rephrase.
Just the same meaning of above-mentioned advanced/future mechanisms that 
involve the base address selection mechanism defined in RFC 3484.

Best regards,


>    Brian
> 
>> So, I'm glad to have your everyone's mood on these three points.
>> Can we poll at today's 6man session, or at the ML ?
>> 
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