On 2010-09-14 10:12, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Jeroen Massar wrote: > >> On 2010-09-14 07:59, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >> [..] >>> Does this sound like madness or something that might be of use? What WG >>> might be best suited to bring this idea to? >> >> What part can not be achieved with WHOIS/RPSL already? > > Why aren't people using WHOIS for DNSBL? Massive amount of questions are > frowned upon by the people who run whois servers.
I assume you mean queries instead of questions. They rate limit that mostly though to avoid robots from querying all the person objects and snarf the (email) address details. >> The bigger issue though is just like WHOIS though: folks don't update. >> And of course, folks will lie... > > Absolutely, nothing is perfect. > >> WHOIS is pretty meaningless for addresses and contacts already in quite >> a number of cases, adding more data will only add more nonsense. > > My idea wasn't to use WHOIS for this, I was more thinking in lines of > reverse-DNS but in new structure (under arpa.) or something completely new. > > I think there is a need to somehow publish this information and do it > dynamically, and I don't think WHOIS is the way to go. Publishing policy in a consistent and parseable manner is a good idea indeed. Bill Manning's link (see his mail) shows something along the lines that you are thinking about I guess, but instead of creating a new domain one could also stuff it in the existing reverse DNS space similar to _spf records are done on forward domains, thus eg _policy.2.0.192.in-addr.arpa; but maybe a separate domain (and thus unfortunately all the trust involved in delegating that and maintaining it) is a better idea as then one can have a more specific for a certain block. Maybe it is time to convert WHOIS into rpsl.arpa, but storing person/contact data that does not want to published there in the current RIR whois services, thus just having policy information? There is though a lot one can do with RPSL queries that won't be feasible with DNS. Greets, Jeroen -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list [email protected] Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
