Sure, we can do that. I suggest repurposing the present draft as
a rationale document, so basically what we have to do is merge its
section 4 into 3697.

FYI the proposed authors for 3697bis are
 Shane Amante
 Brian Carpenter
 Sheng Jiang
 Jarno Rajahalme

Since the WG adopted draft-ietf-6man-flow-update, should
we post 3697bis immediately as a 6man draft?

Regards
   Brian

On 2011-01-18 10:58, Bob Hinden wrote:
> Brian,
> 
>> There's clearly a problem (20 unused bits and enormous confusion about
>> how they could be used). And clearly the goal is 3697bis. The reason for
>> this draft, as I believe we've discussed over some months, is to set the
>> scene for 3697bis. Indeed we have two choices:
>>
>> 1) agree on the substance of the intended updates and publish them as a
>> stake in the ground, then develop 3697bis.
>>
>> 2) agree on the substance of the intended updates (by means of the
>> present WGLC), and then proceed directly to develop 3697bis.
>>
>> I understood that we'd agreed on 1) but the WG Chairs can tell me I'm wrong.
> 
> After a short discussion, the chairs think that it would be preferable to 
> either have this document become an update to RFC3697 itself, or have an 
> RFC3697bis draft be written to be considered in parallel.  In the last case 
> this draft would be the justification and background, and the RFC3697bis 
> draft would be an implementers spec (that is, what to do, not why).  I note 
> that RFC3697 is only 9 pages long.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
>>> And in looking at draft-ietf-6man-flow-ecmp-00.txt (also in WGLC),
>>> that document is a BCP and does not update any of the previous Flow
>>> Label documents.
>> Correct. It doesn't need to; it is additional practice and the intention
>> is to ensure that it's compatible both with 3697 and the eventual 3697bis.
>> (I agree with your comment on that draft that the phrasing on this
>> point is clumsy.)
>>
>>> If we need to update the Flow Label specs, we should do so, and this
>>> document could be part of that or a rational for the changes. But
>>> absent any changes to the existing standards, I am not comfortable
>>> with publishing this document.
>> I would be too, if it was the end of the road, but we have an author
>> team all set to start on 3697bis once we have a clear consensus in
>> the WG about the changes to be made. Can you propose text that is
>> clearer than the following?
>>
>>   (In the Abstract)
>>   This document describes and motivates proposed
>>   changes to the specification in order to clarify it, making it clear
>>   what types of usage are possible, and to introduce some additional
>>   flexibility.  It does not formally update RFC 3697.
>>
>>
>>   (In the Introduction)
>>   The intention of this document is to explain this in more detail and
>>   to propose changes to RFC 3697 intended to remove the uncertainties
>>   and encourage active usage of the flow label.  It does not formally
>>   update RFC 3697.
>>
>>     Brian
> 
> 
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