On 05/06/11 21:30, Arturo Servin wrote:
> 
>       I do not see why the ITU has to start from zero. 

What Eliot said.

> There are several (or some at least) very good RFC and I+D documents related 
> to IPv6 security. 

Sure. Feel free to send RFC numbers and we'll include
some in the draft response that we'll circulate in a
while. (So no need to spam everyone with those, just
sending your suggestions to Eliot, Sean and I will be
enough.)

Thanks,
S.



> I think we should recommend them to ITU, it is good that they let us
know, it would be better if  they use our work as a foundation.
> 
> just my 20 cents
> -as
> 
> 
> On 5 Jun 2011, at 00:10, John Leslie wrote:
> 
>> Stephen Farrell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> We received a liaison [1] from ITU-T saying they're
>>> planning to start a couple of work items on the
>>> security of IPv6. As far as we know, they envisage
>>> developing a "technical guideline on deploying IPv6"
>>> and "Security Management Guideline for implementation
>>> of IPv6 environment in telecommunications
>>> organizations." Bear in mind that they're just starting
>>> so they know about as much as we would just before a
>>> BoF or something like that.
>>>
>>> I think we'd like to respond to them that that's great,
>>> and we'll be interested in their results, but can they
>>> *please* come back to us before saying something should
>>> be changed so's we can talk about it.
>>
>>   I don't think that's quite right. We should welcome their studying
>> security issues; but I think we need to _strongly_ encourage them to
>> start from draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis when it becomes an RFC -- since
>> it has _significant_ changes from RFC 4294 (and an ITU-T study based
>> on RFC4294 will be of rather limited value).
>>
>>   Furthermore, ITU-T should NOT propose "changes" to IPv6 protocol
>> or the Node Requirements. The language there should talk of documenting
>> security "concerns" or "issues" or whatever term seems neutral enough;
>> and list as the next step exchanging ideas of what "changes" might help.
>>
>>   Clearly, ITU-T is entirely justified in publishing recommendations
>> of what level of security-related-trust to place in IPv6 packet
>> forwarding: but any protocol _changes_ are outside their bailiwick.
>>
>>   (As an aside, IETF should resist most proposals for change until
>> IPv6 sees widespread deployment -- deploying to a moving target is
>> just TOO risky.)
>>
>> --
>> John Leslie <[email protected]>
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