On 01/05/2012 10:08 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote:

>> On 01/04/2012 11:55 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> The problem with RFC4821 (assumming the ICMP-free variant) is that it
>> has a longer convergnece time that ICMP-enabled PMTU.
> 
> RFC4821 works even if there are no ICMPs, but will
> converge more quickly if there are ICMPs. That is why
> RFC4821 should be a SHOULD for hosts, and generation
> of ICMPs should be a MUST for routers.

Agreed.



>> That's why people think of RFC4821 as a mechanism for PMTUD blackhole
>> detection rathern than as a repalcement for traditional PMTUD 
>> (i.e., you
>> use the transport-layer probes when it looks like 
>> tradictional PMTUD is
>> not working (possibly as a result of filtered ICMP error messages)).
> 
> The two are complementary. 

It was originally meant to be a replacement for traditional PMTUD. Then
it was relaxed and RFC4821 allowed for it to be used only in the
presence of PMTUD blackholes.

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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