On 02/01/2012 08:37 PM, Philip Homburg wrote:
> I'm not claiming that it is not used. The Internet is a very big place, 
> proving
> a negative is almost impossible.

At the very least, one should bother surveying implementations and/or
doing some measurements...



> One issue is, are atomic fragments used for anything other than stateless
> IPv6/IPv4 translators? 

Weren't one of the pointers I provided about atomic fragments used for
the DNS?



> Unless I misunderstood you, you claimed there was such
> usage. I can't find the message you were referring to, so I asked you for a
> message ID. Instead you gave examples from another area, that seems consistent
> with stateless translators.

See the post by <[email protected]> in the thread about
"Fragmentation-related security issues".


> The second issue is that in my opinion, sending atomic fragments to such
> translators is a bad idea and should be deprecated. Assuming there is no other
> use for atomic fragments, 

You know that they say assumptions are the mother of all f* ups?


> that implies to me that we should not spend any time
> making it work better. Just let it die off

Let's agree to disagree.

.

> Why is sending atomic fragments to translators a bad idea? Because the whole
> IPv6 Internet has to support it (and will suffer the effects) and the use is

What are "the effects"??


> I'm not saying that any existing support has to be removed. Just let it be.
> But fully supporting atomic fragments everywhere will have a lot of impact,
> and that is in my opinion not worth the effort. 

See the survey I posted. Everybody modulo NetBSD supports them.

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
e-mail: [email protected]
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