2013-01-29  18:28, Ole Troan <[email protected]>  :

...
>>> I still think we need to answer the question Brian raised.
>>> should the interface-id have any encoded meaning?
>> 
>> That will not be done overnight. I've been thinking about it and
>> have some ideas about how to write a discussion draft, but it is
>> unfortuante to make the 4rd work queue behind us. Is there any risk
>> in doing as Rémi suggested?
> 
> it depends on what the expected meaning of a reservation is.
> should all implementations treat the reserved part of the interface-id as 
> martian,

No.

> and prohibit a user from configuring it for another purpose than 4rd?

Already done since, today, no RFC4291 unicast address may have u=g=1 (a point 
confirmed during the discussion). 

> 
> or is it just a 'suggestion' for interface-id's that the 4rd mechanism can 
> use, and the operator
> deploying it will make sure there are no conflicts?
> 
> one of my concerns is that continuing to add the interface-id bits, is the 
> opposite direction of where
> I want us to go.

Unless you want to modify RFC4291 without backward compatibility, I don't see 
why using an unused IID range having u=1 could be harmful. 
("The use of the universal/local bit in the Modified EUI-64 format identifier 
is to allow development of future technology that can take advantage of 
interface identifiers with universal scope").


> I wouldn't object to non-normative language in 4rd suggesting a interface-id 
> to use, without
> creating any expectation that new or existing IPv6 implementations have to 
> change.

On this, we agree: the fact that 4rd needs no change of existing IPv6 
implementations that don't support is key.

The RFC that is needed to reserve a 4rd IID-range despite its being 
experimental is, in my understanding, the natural place to make this clear.


> that said, 4rd will work perfectly well _without_ this reservation, so I 
> don't buy the argument that
> we're holding up the 4rd work.

As explained in various ways several times, reserving a currently unused IID 
range ensure that, when 4rd is activated in customer site, no renumbering of 
any RFC-compliant link or host is necessary. Without that, 4rd wouldn't be up 
to its objectives.

regards,
RD


> 
> cheers,
> Ole
> 
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