Hi, Qiong,

Sharing your concern. This variation is only one of possible way to use the 
address. So far, I am not convinced why give subscriber some much free bits and 
how to use it well. Maybe Owen, who suggest this can give us for information. 
Lets’ discuss the further. At the end, maybe what we only need to do in the 
draft is to document this possibilities and neutrally record its advantages and 
pitfalls.

Cheers,

Sheng

From: Qiong [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 11:45 AM
To: Sheng Jiang
Cc: Ted Lemon; Owen DeLong; <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [v6ops] Could IPv6 address be more than 
locator?//draft-jiang-v6ops-semantic-prefix-03

Hi Sheng,

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Sheng Jiang 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Comparing giving 16 bits for subscribers, which rarely use it or we still have 
no concrete idea how this will be used, the semantic bits on the provider side 
looks more helpful.

Or provider may designate the bit in the lower 16 bits can have some semantics. 
For example, a provider may give every subscriber /48 and appoint that all 
subscribers should use their /48+0000 (48~51 bit) -> a /52 prefix for a certain 
application, like VoIP. Then the provider can inspect all VoIP traffic from 
different subscribers by only set condition 48~51 bit equal to 0000. This 
variation of semantic prefix is also helpful.
[Qiong] I have little concern for this variation. For operators who can not 
fully control of subscriber's CPE, this solution may have trust issue, and it 
may get conflict with other CPE's allocation policy. But it is ok for operators 
who can fully control of subscriber's CPE.

Best wishes
Qiong



From: Ted Lemon [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 3:29 AM
To: Owen DeLong
Cc: Sheng Jiang; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>;
 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] Could IPv6 address be more than 
locator?//draft-jiang-v6ops-semantic-prefix-03

On May 30, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Owen DeLong 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Not a great assumption... They should need 4 million or more /48s since every 
subscriber is at least one end site and every subscriber end site should 
receive a /48.

I am not in love with using bits from prefixes as semantic tags.   However, 
having said that, I think it's a bit ironic that you're talking about wasting 
space with semantic bits, on the one hand, and talking about the need for a /48 
in every home on the other.   It would be perfectly reasonable for the ISP to 
specify that some of the bits in the /48 have semantic meaning, for example, 
and given that we think it's okay to give the home network a /48, we are hardly 
in a position to quibble about how the bits in that /48 are used.

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