Another update on my adventures here.

I found a working tutorial and set of links for setting up grub4dos on a flash drive and set up both gpxe and ipxe entries on it. gPXE boots up and works as expected on the Dell. The one Mac simply will not show a bootable USB device, Apple fail on that one. The other Mac tries to start gPXE and fails out trying to find a network adaptor. I'm guessing this confirms that it uses hardware that is not supported in gPXE. Bummer.

iPXE wouldn't load from grub4dos, it threw error 62: the number of heads must be specified. No idea what this means or why grub can't load the iPXE.iso file normally, but a thread about the same issue with gparted.iso led me to put in some head and sector variables that got it to boot. In the end, a much better solution in my environment than needing Unix to make a drive. That's the good news.

However, in the end, same boot issue as before. Once I choose an image to boot from WDS, it goes to the black "Windows is loading files..." screen with the server IP at the bottom and file=\Boot\Boot.SDI and the progress bar doesn't budge. Normally of course it flips through that in half a second and moves on to the rest of the boot process and 60 seconds later I'm installing Windows. This is now 3 ways on 3 systems starting up iPXE, same failure each time, it won't actually boot to a network image. If feels like although iPXE can see all these new network devices, it can't actually use them properly for more than a couple bits, so it gets an IP, gets the image list from WDS, but then can't move enough data to boot one.

Any ideas how to get iPXE to actually boot a WDS image like gPXE did? I'm obviously having trouble believing that with 100% failure that no one has run into this before, so I'm hoping there is a simple solution just missing from the documentation like that whole eject thing.

Cheers,
Yadin


On 6/19/2013 5:23 PM, Yadin Flammer wrote:

On 6/19/2013 4:19 PM, Robin Smidsrød wrote:
Well, you're writing directly to the block device instead of using high-level file routines. It's understandable that you need to flush the device cache for that kind of activity.

Understandable to one who understands all the intricacies of what is happening perhaps ;)

Can you give us a screenshot/picture of what's going on? My guess is you
might be dealing with a driver strangeness, especially if you're using
the existing bnx2 (Broadcom) driver. I'd recommend you try to build with
DEBUG=bnx2,tg3 to see if you get any more info out of it. Also, when you
boot up iPXE, what value do you have for "chip" when using the "config"
command?

Again, not understanding all the inner workings of this, I need something more to work with here. Are you saying I should delete the ipxe directory, git clone again, and then "make DEBUG=bnx2,tg3" then dd the ipxe.usb built from that? I found the ipxe command line and pulled the config on 3 of the systems I'm working with most. Their chip values are:
Dell: 82566dm-2 (Intel gig ethernet?)
MacBook Pro: ar5416 (Atheros? I think it's listing the wireless instead of the ethernet since it seems to go through these in the "wrong" order? Not sure how to pull "chip2" as it were...)
Mac Mini: 14e4-16b4  (broadcom?)


The first thing is to start showing us what you're actually doing
instead of just talking about it. Details, details, details! To be able
to debug remotely we need logs, hardware details and descriptions of
your setup and what you're trying to do. It would also be useful to
understand what your end goal is, maybe you're going about it in the
wrong, or unoptimal, way.

Short of getting a camera and uploading a photo documentary somewhere of what I'm doing, I'm not sure what you're asking for here (I can do that if need be, just take a bit). I thought I had in my "talking" given a lot of details about what I'm doing and working with, sorry if it's not what you're looking for, it was all I knew to say. With such a low level thing, and no readable file system, how are there any logs that I could send and where are they? If you have specific questions (like the chips above) or can tell me things you'd like me to do, I'm happy to accommodate. To review though:

I have a WDS server set up with multiple boot images and restore images working as desired when PXE booting Dell systems to deploy a system image to them. I'd like to be able to do this same thing but on our dual boot Mac systems. Because EFI on a Mac has no PXE layer, I can't boot from the WDS server natively. Google led me to gPXE, which works perfectly from CD. So far so good. To be more convenient, I wanted to use gPXE from a USB key rather than have people deal with CDs both in bulk and speed. Also, some Mac systems like the Air have no built in Cd drive. This is where it all stopped.
gPXE doesn't work from USB as it does from CD.
I have been told to stop trying to deal with gPXE because it's dead and I should use iPXE. iPXE does not work end to end at all on any system (3 different Mac, 2 different Dell, all of which gPXE from CD works fine) from any boot media (CD or USB). As mentioned, it fails to actually initiate the boot image once selected from WDS.

If there is a better way, or some other critical easy to miss info like issuing an eject command that would make iPXE work, I'm all ears. Not being any more familiar with iPXE than what is at http://ipxe.org/download (and not even fully grasping all that), and not being a coder or low level unix guru, exact command walk-throughs would be helpful :) I wondered if there was something with that EFI note at the end I should be concerned about, but there is no supporting information to explain what that's all about.

Thanks!
Yadin


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