There are many ways mixing spurs can appear - several formulas, some specific 
to the IF frequency of the receiver. Multiples may appear on one frequency, 
sometimes multiples including a common station.

But also don't limit the thinking to daytimers when the spur disappears at 
night because it culd be a fulltimer which changes power, pattern or both at 
sunset generating something only with day facilities, or, if the mixing product 
( and this is actually more frequent ) results from a source external to either 
station, it probably takes a certain amount of field strength at that point to 
create the spur, hence a reduction in power or a change in pattern could make 
it disappear.

Russ Edmunds
Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL )
[15 mi NNW of Philadelphia]
40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id
<[email protected]>
FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'
AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot


--- On Mon, 2/23/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Image Frequency Question
> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" 
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 8:47 PM
> Here in the Detroit Michigan area, we have at least one
> intermod:
> 
> FM band: 98.7 + 105.9 = 204.6 / 2 = 102.3 and due to the
> capture effect
>    on FM, only the stronger of the two signals (98.7) is
> heard. Both
>    transmitters are approx. 5 miles apart from each other. 
> 
> And as a side note, back to the original request, I'd
> look at 730 + 970 = 
> 1700 / 2 = 850, especially if 73 is a daytimer and if it is
> heard on more 
> than radio.
> 
> Good job, and 73 de Joe, KJ8O, Troy, MI
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:28:16 -0700, Deane McIntyre wrote
> > On 23-Feb-09, at 1:46 PM, Ty T wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > While the topic of frequency imaging is being
> discussed, I have one  
> > > to ask.  Here in Billings, MT I can pick-up our
> local 970, KBUL on  
> > > 850 during the day.  It comes in just like it was
> actually on 850.   
> > > At night, it is no longer present and KOA Denver
> usually comes in  
> > > like a local themselves.  Any ideas why 970
> images onto 850?  The  
> > > other locals here are 730, 790, 910, 970 and
> 1240.  The only other  
> > > imaging I have noticed locally is a faint image
> of 730 onto 1090.
> > >
> > 
> > Most likely a mixing (intermod) product with your
> local on 910.
> > 2 x 910 - 970 = 850
> > 
> > 2 x 910 - 730 = 1090, which gives you your other
> mixing product
> > 
> > Here in Calgary I get a few of these from our 50 kW
> locals on 660,  
> > 770, 910, 960, 1010, 1060, 1140:
> > 
> > 2 x 660 - 770 = 550
> > 
> > 2 x 960 - 1060 = 860
> > 
> > 2 x 1140 - 1060 = 1220
> > 
> > are the worst
> > 
> > 73,
> > 
> > Deane McIntyre VE6BPO
> > Calgary AB
> > 
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