Hmmm, second hand SDRs....only a matter of time. They may lose
value less quickly perhaps, as long as their software keeps
evolving. Remember also, it was only just over two years ago that
the Perseus was the first to record the entire MW band! There's been
a lot of DX under the bridge in that time (to mix metaphors), and now
there are several competitors.
best wishes,
Nick
At 19:44 08-01-11, you wrote:
Thanks Chuck and Nick, although in the one case, we're quibbling over $2 <g>.
Even so, I have trouble justifying $850 though. I don't think I've
spent that much cumulatively over my years in the hobby, considering
two HQ-150's and two ICF 2010's. For the record, I bought my first
HQ-150 used in 1969.
Russ Edmunds
15 mi NNW of Philadelphia
Grid FN20id
<wb2...@yahoo.com>
FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'; Grundig G8
AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot
--- On Sat, 1/8/11, Nick Hall-Patch <n...@ieee.org> wrote:
> From: Nick Hall-Patch <n...@ieee.org>
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Testing New SDR software
> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America"
<irca@hard-core-dx.com>
> Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 1:50 PM
> Excalibur is $850 at Grove,
> Russ....http://www.grove-ent.com/excalibur.html Detailed
> review
> appeared in DX Monitor just recently...and of course, none
> of the
> analog receivers covered the full BCB either! Mine
> cover one channel
> at a time, and they need a separate audio recorder for that
> channel...
>
> A bit more later. This is an interesting
> topic, and I'm surprised
> how few comments there have been on Mike's post so far.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Nick
>
>
> At 15:00 08-01-11, you wrote:
> >I was ( although I didn't say so ) excluding the SDR-IQ
> completely
> >on account of that very big limitation. If you want to
> cover the
> >full BCB, it isn't happening today for under a grand so
> far as I know.
> >
> >Russ Edmunds
> >15 mi NNW of Philadelphia
> >Grid FN20id
> ><wb2...@yahoo.com>
> >FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15';
> Grundig G8
> >AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot
> >
> >
> >--- On Sat, 1/8/11, Bruce Portzer <bport...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Bruce Portzer <bport...@comcast.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Testing New SDR software
> > > To: "Mailing list for the International Radio
> Club of America"
> > <irca@hard-core-dx.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 2:45 AM
> > > Some popular SDRs can be had for
> > > under $1000. The RFSpace SDR-IQ
> > > retails for about $500 and Grove is offering the
> Winradio
> > > Excalibur for
> > > $850.
> > >
> > > I've owned an SDR-IQ for about 3.5 years and like
> it quite
> > > a bit. The
> > > main drawback is you can "only" record 196 kHz of
> spectrum
> > > at a time.
> > >
> > > I also bought an Excalibur a couple of days
> ago. My
> > > initial impressions
> > > are very favorable - it's loaded with features
> and can
> > > record up to 2
> > > MHz of spectrum (assuming you have a computer
> that's a lot
> > > more powerful
> > > than the one I'm using).
> > >
> > > On 1/7/2011 9:01 AM, Russ Edmunds wrote:
> > > > SDR's are lower in cost ? I suppose that
> might be true
> > > if you could find a high end receiver new, but
> the prices I
> > > see for any of the newer generation SDR's are
> quite high.
> > > Well north of $1000 would be beyond what I'd want
> to spend
> > > for a hobby receiver whether SDR or traditional,
> and I'm
> > > certain a lot of other DX'ers would view it
> similarly.
> > > >
> > > > As more and more manufacturers stop making
> standard
> > > receivers, perhaps the demand for SDR's will
> dictate some
> > > price moderation.
> > > >
> > > > Russ Edmunds
> > > > 15 mi NNW of Philadelphia
> > > > Grid FN20id
> > > > <wb2...@yahoo.com>
> > > > FM: Yamaha T-80& Onkyo T-450RDS w/
> APS9B
> > > @15'; Grundig G8
> > > > AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 1/7/11, Mike Bates<mjba...@skypoint.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> From: Mike Bates<mjba...@skypoint.com>
> > > >> Subject: [IRCA] Testing New SDR
> software
> > > >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > > >> Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 1:34 AM
> > > >> I have been trying out some new
> > > >> software on my QS1R SDR and have found
> the results
> > > to be
> > > >> quite good. I currently am running the
> receiver
> > > using
> > > >> several different software packages,
> including the
> > > SDRMAXII
> > > >> that comes with the QS1R. This evening I
> was using
> > > Winrad
> > > >> version 1.5 and had the occasion this
> evening to
> > > log on 1370
> > > >> WSPD in Toledo OH @ 9:55PM CST this
> evening, 1/6,
> > >
> > > >> using a KIWA loop. Also heard CFRY on
> 920, on top
> > > in the
> > > >> null of semi local KDHL. Good but not
> exceptional
> > > catches.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have not seen a lot here regarding
> SDR's, with
> > > the
> > > >> possible exception of some using the
> Perseus. I
> > > think that
> > > >> they are the future, as more and more
> companies
> > > are dropping
> > > >> production of their higher end
> receivers. RL
> > > Drake, Japan
> > > >> Radio Company, Yaesu, and Kenwood
> are prime
> > > examples.
> > > >> SDR's are lower in cost and provide the
> > > equivalent, or
> > > >> better performance of these older
> receivers. The
> > > added
> > > >> benefit is spectrum analysis, which
> works better
> > > than the
> > > >> scopes built into the stand alone ham
> rigs of
> > > recent years.
> > > >> You can see a split frequency station
> before you
> > > can hear
> > > >> it. Another benefit is spectrum
> recording and play
> > > back
> > > >> using the receiver software.
> > > >>
> > > >> There is now a version of the Soft Rock
> series,
> > > which is a
> > > >> kit that sells for around $60.00 and
> covers from
> > > 180KHz to
> > > >> 3MHz. The down side is that you need a
> computer
> > > and a high
> > > >> quality sound card to run this, but
> computers
> > > these days are
> > > >> also lower in price than in days gone
> by. There is
> > > also a
> > > >> pre built receiver the Lazy Dog LD-1B
> which sells
> > > for about
> > > >> $275.00. Of course there are the direct
> sample
> > > SDR's that
> > > >> are more expensive such as the SDR
> IQ,
> > > Perseus,
> > > >> WinRadio Excalibur and the QS1R. These
> are still
> > > lower in
> > > >> cost than the Drake R8B was when it went
> out of
> > > production,
> > > >> and have top flight performance.
> > > >>
> > > >> I would be interested to know if there
> are others
> > > using
> > > >> SDR's and what they think of them for
> MWDX, as
> > > well as tips
> > > >> for use.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks and
> > > >> 73,
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike Bates KA0KLQ
> > > >>
> > > >> Inver Grove Heights, MN
> > >
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