I think there's a valid point here - one that's been hashed through on various 
DX lists and in bulletins for a long time. If a station is operating illegally, 
it's a DX opportunity to be taken advantage of and once it's logged it quickly 
becomes a pest. That is pretty much wanting to have it both ways depending on 
whether it benefits or interferes with our DX activities.

While some have argued that Paul could have held off a bit with the 
notification, I can still see both sides here. It's a judgement call, and as I 
said earlier, if it results in a DX test or a few, then it's all to the good.

Russ Edmunds
15 mi NNW of Philadelphia  
Grid FN20id
<[email protected]>
FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'; Grundig G8
AM:  Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot

--- On Sat, 2/11/12, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [NRC-AM] [IRCA] On the nature of DX Alerts
To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" 
<[email protected]>, "NRC" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, February 11, 2012, 6:17 PM

Every broadcaster I've talked to agrees with me that once a station is made 
aware of the issue and do nothing about it, then it becomes intentional.

I totally understand the point the DX'ers are making here, don't get me wrong.. 
as I am a DX'er too.


That being said, as a broadcaster, what angers me, is that DX'ers think a 
station should continue to operate in a manner other then what they're licensed 
for just to suit/benefit a DX'er who hasn't logged the station yet.


However, the DX'ers want their cake and eat it too... if a stations being a 
pest, they jump up and down, screaming for the station to stop misbehaving. 

DX'ers come across as a group who want a station to operate ill-legally only 
when it benefits them.


Paul



On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Les Rayburn <[email protected]> wrote:



I am reluctant to chime in on this issue. Paul is an example of a broadcaster, 
who is also a friend to DX'ers. He's scheduled or helped to schedule several

DX tests, and we're all in his debt.



But I do think he was out of line on this one. This list is about DXing, and 
once in a lifetime opportunities like that need to be respected. If you monitor 
or

lurk on this list for the purpose of reporting violations to the FCC---you're 
wasting your time. There are offenders who have been doing so on a daily basis

for years. They've all been reported numerous times, and the FCC has taken no 
action.



The sad part is that Paul's offense is minor compared to the action that some 
DX'ers have taken in this regard. Curtis, are you here? During my tenure

as Test Coordinator, I was shocked at how many DX'ers seemed to consider 
themselves as unpaid monitoring employees for the FCC. Failing to get

"action" out of this agency, some of them turned to harassing station owners, 
engineers, and even calling other stations on the same frequency hoping

to solicit their support for their "cause".



My own time to spend DXing is very limited. So Tips and DX tests represent the 
best opportunity for me to log new stations. I'm protective of these lists, and

the people who give generously of their time and expertise to post them.



Paul--you're my friend, and I stand behind you. But I think you made the wrong 
call on this one.









-- 

73,



*Les Rayburn, N1LF*

EM63nf

121 Mayfair Park Maylene, AL 35114

6M VUCC #1712

Grid Pirates #222

Life Member Central States VHF



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