Chuck, <<< Hiroo Nakagawa is one of Japan's top DXers and has a lot of experience. A lot.
I wouldn't worry about him turning up the volume and wearing headphones. As a native speaker of Japanese and given his experience, I value his opinion very highly. >>> I certainly don't doubt Hiroo's experience (or yours). But in order to assist Tim in identifying the language in a very challenging MP3, concrete evidence of the language's identity needs to be reported (and investigated, if necessary). In an exceptional but very marginal recording like Tim's 747 TP reception, he deserves nothing less. 73, Gary -----Original Message----- From: Chuck <[email protected]> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 3:31 pm Subject: Re: [IRCA] TP from Michigan: More audio posted Gary - Hiroo Nakagawa is one of Japan's top DXers and has a lot of experience. A lot. I wouldn't worry about him turning up the volume and wearing headphones. As a native speaker of Japanese and given his experience, I value his opinion very highly. Chuck On 10/2/2013 3:14 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Chuck, > > Tim's 747 recording is at a very marginal level, and nobody is going to pick anything out of the recording unless he puts on very sensitive headphones, turns up the volume, and listens carefully for any possible syllable connections to form a word pattern. The problem in this MP3 is that no such pattern can be heard until very well into the recording, at 4:16 into the YouTube video. If your Japanese contact didn't do all of the above (use high sensitivity headphones, turn up the volume, and listen carefully throughout the entire length of the MP3, assuming that he has the patience to do so), he wouldn't have discovered anything. > > Nevertheless, if you can direct your Japanese friend's attention to the > phrase "ano... dookaku no" at 4:16 into the YouTube video, I'm pretty sure that he will confirm the language as Japanese. After consulting a Japanese dictionary for a precise translation, the phrase "ano.. dookaku no" in Japanese means "well... the same amount of..." in English. > > 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck <[email protected]> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 9:42 am > Subject: Re: [IRCA] TP from Michigan: More audio posted > > > I could not say this was Japanese so I passed it along to Japanese DXer > Hiroo Nakagawa. His response: > > "I listened to it carefully. But even I Japanese native speaker can’t > judge the language. As I can’t pick up any word, I can’t say for sure > that it is Japanese." > > Chuck > > > On 9/30/2013 7:31 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> Hi Tim, >> >> <<< I appreciate the comments regarding my first reception of presumed Japan >> on 747 on Sunday morning. I've posted a longer recording to Youtube, >> actually a recording of the SDR capture. The video begins using a >> narrow filter and is then repeated using a wider filter. Some faint >> talk can be heard. Perhaps someone with more experienced ears than mine >> can take a guess at the language heard here (headphones recommended!): >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDIfnApY0o&feature=youtu.be >>> >> >> Thanks for posting the longer recording of your 747 kHz TP reception on > YouTube. >> I've listened to the recording with headphones, as recommended. At 4:16 into > the video the male speaker uses a phrase which pretty much indicates that the > language is Japanese ("ano... dookaku no") which roughly translates as "no > matter what..." in English. He is using more intonation than what is commonly > used in the monotone-styled Japanese language, but this is possibly an attempt > to make the speech more interesting for a radio listener. My own opinion is that > the speech is Japanese, although other TP-DXers may have further comments > (especially in how the program matches up to the NHK2 archives). BTW, I lived in > Japan as a high school brat (1967-69). >> 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tim Tromp <[email protected]> >> To: irca <[email protected]> >> Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:34 pm >> Subject: [IRCA] TP from Michigan: More audio posted >> >> >> I appreciate the comments regarding my first reception of presumed Japan >> on 747 on Sunday morning. I've posted a longer recording to Youtube, >> actually a recording of the SDR capture. The video begins using a >> narrow filter and is then repeated using a wider filter. Some faint >> talk can be heard. Perhaps someone with more experienced ears than mine >> can take a guess at the language heard here (headphones recommended!): >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDIfnApY0o&feature=youtu.be >> >> 73, >> Tim Tromp >> West Michigan >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IRCA mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >> >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original >> contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its >> editors, publishing staff, or officers >> >> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >> >> To Post a message: [email protected] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IRCA mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >> >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers >> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >> >> To Post a message: [email protected] >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > IRCA mailing list > [email protected] > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: [email protected] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > IRCA mailing list > [email protected] > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: [email protected] > _______________________________________________ IRCA mailing list [email protected] http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: [email protected] _______________________________________________ IRCA mailing list [email protected] http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: [email protected]
