Hi Mark, 
  
Thanks to Nick and Bruce for their excellent descriptions of the challenges 
that we face in tracking down Cental and South American DX here in the 
Northwest. 
  
Speaking for the wild ocean cliff / FSL antenna contingent of the TP-DXing 
group, I've noticed that on certain relatively-open frequencies like 530 and 
1610 stations from the Caribbean can be received at good strength during 
auroral conditions after our local sunset, but both domestic QRM and 
propagation are almost always against any one of us that wishes to try for 
South American or Central American stations. The station bearings are almost 
always close to the bearings of domestic pests, and ocean cliff operations are 
most successful when the cliffs attenuate signals from those troublesome 
bearings. This type of cliff-provided F/B ratio is critical for the performance 
of the figure-8 pattern FSL antenna to be competitive in transoceanic DXing. 
  
Another important factor is that ocean cliff operations are usually scheduled 
around local sunrise, when the chances of tracking down long-range DU-DX are 
the greatest. Propagation to Central and South America is long gone by this 
time. These Highway 101 ocean cliff turnouts are also dicey locations, usually 
subject to wacky weather and wacky visitors (non-DXers, that is). Scheduling 
one of these ocean cliff visits after local sunset (when propagation to Central 
and South America might be theoretically possible, although unlikely because of 
domestic QRM and ocean cliff filtering) would probably make you the center of 
attraction for certain bizarre and unsavory individuals-- at the peak time of 
their congregation. These particular individuals are unlikely to allow you to 
concentrate on your "wishful thinking" type of DX search without full receiving 
full explanations of what you are doing at the site, what is that bizarre 
contraption on the white pipes, do you want to share some of their "stuff," 
etc. So, Mark, maybe now you can understand a little of what we are up against? 
  
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA) 
  
     

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mark Connelly via IRCA" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 7:00:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Twisted Propagation for 3-23 
On 3/23/2015 19:00, Mark Connelly via CIRCA wrote: 

For the past week here on the East Coast we have been milking a rather 
productive auroral "cow" while the discourse from out west tends to be one 
gloomy lack-of-TP's posting after the next. 

Is Latin America from out there - other than pest Mexicans / Cubans - a total 
non-starter? 

I seem to remember '70s era logs of West Coast South America from West Coast 
North America.  Chile, Peru, Ecuador, and western Colombia had some 
representation.  Central America - admittedly aided by splits that aren't there 
anymore - was reported almost as much as from the midwest and east. 

Even some reports of Brazil and eastern Caribbean region stations - DX more 
often associated with eastern US / Canada - wasn't completely off the table. 

The Pacific Northwest (to some extent combined with CA, AZ, etc.) has more 
active DXers with more different bags of tricks - ultralights / FSL's, SDR's / 
QDFA and Wellbrook arrays, and so on - than the (at best) half dozen reasonably 
active DXers in New England, NY, and NJ.  Yet where are the Latin American 
logs? 

Is it "all about the TP's - the TP's - no Latins" (to echo that massively 
overplayed "all about the bass" song)? 

TA's of course are always a big interest around here.  During this aurora only 
a handful of stations (e.g. Algeria 549, Canaries 621, Mauritania 783, Sao Tome 
1530) have reasonably beefy signals.  Boring, yes BUT South Americans are 
SCREAMING in as they had not done for months, so no one in the northeast is 
throwing up the hands or hanging up the headphones. 

So as one who has only DX'ed from the West Coast for two weeks in 1991 
(business trip to HP in Mountain View, CA), what's the deal on Latin America 
from the West Coast?  Certainly harder than from coastal NJ, MA, ME, PEI, NS, 
and NL (or even Scotland and Finland it would seem), but impossible? 

There are a lot of big gun DXers in BC, WA, OR, etc. with serious and varied 
expertise, motivation, and technological power tools of all sorts at their 
disposal.  DXpeditions seem to be done more often out there - Grayland, Haida 
Gwaii, Rockworks, et al. 

I have to wonder if there are times of the year when sunset or dawn greylines 
ever vector signals from Valparaiso, Chile or Lima, Peru into that area?  Those 
cities were certainly well represented when Richard Wood was DXing from Hawaii 
but, of course, those were shorter and easier routes to that part of the 
Pacific. 

Would hearing those South Americans be easier from Alaska (away from the 
mainland US / Mexican rabble) better than from closer sites along the US West 
Coast, just as hearing Uruguay and Argentina is easier from Newfoundland than 
from the Carolinas - lower pest levels trumping longer path lengths? 
   
Sometime I may go on the Topband list and posit the same questions regarding 
160-m ham activity from the western US / Canada to South America. 

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