I have looked at possible antennas in the 100-120 feet patch of land and maybe a tree close to the center, so I think I will go after a Super KAZ, shown as 112 feet in length. I am not sure of the exact dimensions, but it should be reasonably close. the EWE is quite forgiving, so I presume the KAZ should be too. It will be interesting to compare the Super KAZ with the EWE when I get done as both are near the same size, except the KAZ uses more wire with that leg on the ground. I may have to modify the legs coming down a bit to keep people from running into them. Now to get some dry weather too.
Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 02:33:31 +0000 > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress > > > Try a Flag, Pennant or Delta (Kaz), preferably the latter. > > Chuck > ________________________________________ > From: IRCA <[email protected]> on behalf of Patrick Martin > <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 1:56 AM > To: IRCA > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress > > Chuck, > > Both John Bryant and I felt that the EWE had coastal properties. They work > well for me, but I am not against trying something new. After all I have a > stretch that runs about 100- 125 feet running East/West. I did try out a K9AY > some years ago that did well but had low gain. I logged two new lp Filipinos > I had never logged before or since. The wet soil here, being a mile from the > Pacific is briny. It is supposed to be fresh water, but there is still a > salt taste to it. I always figured it got some of the salt from the ocean. > Any suggestions on what I might put up instead of a EWE? > > Patrick > > Patrick Martin > Seaside OR > KGED QSL Manager > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:59:19 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress > > > > Patrick: > > > > You can't use Colin's box. Modifications would have to be made to it and to > > your transformer box. Perhaps the next version of Colin's box will have a > > bit of flexibility. > > I'd scrap the EWE: it has by far the poorest antenna pattern in the > > EWE-Flag-Pennant-Delta (Kaz) group. Plus, it's ground dependence means a > > bit of change to the termination as seasons vary the soil characteristics. > > Wet soil doesn't generate voltages all by itself. It might corrode things, > > but that's a different story. > > > > Chuck > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IRCA <[email protected]> on behalf of Patrick Martin > > <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:49 PM > > To: IRCA > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress > > > > Chuck and Colin, > > > > So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is > > designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a > > K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna? Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to > > use? I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our > > soil is swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances > > the TP reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used > > to discuss that, as in OK it never made any difference. > > My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) > > that runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for > > termination. I peak the pot for a null and leave it. > > > > > > Patrick > > > > Patrick Martin > > Seaside OR > > KGED QSL Manager > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress > > > > > > Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have > > > been using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly > > > to the termination - > > > I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground > > > rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source > > > from my Vactrol supply. > > > > > > Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC > > > > > > > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Colin, > > > > > > > > As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the > > > > control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. > > > > Does this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil > > > > is so wet here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at > > > > 20X115X20 in the backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there. > > > > On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot > > > > run a cable through the land over to the end of it because in the > > > > Winter often the wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy > > > > cattle raising field. Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE > > > > and follow the end down to the far end, getting the power to it? I > > > > could avoid running wire through the lake out there in the Winter, also > > > > the cows could not step on it. But would the extra power cable running > > > > next to the EWE affect the operation of it? Any thoughts from anyone > > > > I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting > > > > to the termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the > > > > electric fencing and all. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > Patrick Martin > > > > Seaside OR > > > > KGED QSL Manager > > > > > > > >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:01:10 -0800 > > > >> From: [email protected] > > > >> To: [email protected] > > > >> Subject: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress > > > >> > > > >> I have had around 9 orders or so for VACTROL sets -- > > > >> > > > >> Went out and spent around $500 for parts on Friday - > > > >> > > > >> If anyone is interested in a bit more info on what they are and what > > > >> they > > > >> do, > > > >> head over here - > > > >> http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/19-vactrol-for-the-dxer > > > >> > > > >> This article will grow a little every day. > > > >> > > > >> Many thanks for the advance orders on these units - will knock them > > > >> off as > > > >> fast as possible. > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Colin Newell - 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