I also reported WBOB within 24 hours and never received a QSL. Anymore I only 
send for QSL's on DX Tests as the returns had gotten so poor.


Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id

________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark 
Connelly <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 3:53:29 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NRC-AM] RIP DX Tests (was: Re: Rackley on Synchronous AM Boosters)

On the subject of DX tests, has anyone received a verification via any means 
from the WBOB 600 Jacksonville, FL test that ran about a year ago now?

I reported within 24 hours of the test with obvious identification material in 
the mp3 file and still have not received anything in mail or email.

Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Rayburn <[email protected]>
To: Patrick Martin <[email protected]>
Cc: National Radio Club NRC am@nrcdxas_org <[email protected]>; IRCA Radio List 
- irca@hard-core-dx_com <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Jan 7, 2017 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: [NRC-AM] RIP DX Tests (was: Re: Rackley on Synchronous AM Boosters)

One approach that has been successful in the past is to have the CPC offer to 
handle all verification and QSL duties on behalf of the station. This proved to 
be very successful in obtaining DX Tests simply because it removed the burden 
from the station. We further would take the lead on producing test materials 
(CW Morse Code ID’s, sweep tones, phonetic voice identifications, etc.) and 
providing that as an MP3 file, or on a CD. At the end of the test, the CPC 
would verify reception reports and send out QSL’s. The station personnel 
received a detailed report showing all receptions (often plotted on a map using 
Google Earth) The CPC Chairman is often more familiar with DXing, and better 
able to judge any questionable reception. This approach allowed us to obtain DX 
Tests for a number of smaller stations, with limited resources. Another tactic 
we employed as to produce :60 long “Test Material” that could be run by a 
station during the overnight hours at the TOH as their ID. No change in 
transmitter power, pattern, etc…just distinctive test material that could cut 
through clutter. All that was required was for the station to insert the 
material into their inventory. These often ran for weeks at a time during the 
overnight hours. These too resulted in a lot of “new ones” going into the logs. 
I’m sure there are other innovative approaches that could be successful as 
well. The key is to acknowledge that times change. We have to change our 
tactics as hobbyists if we want to remain successful. 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF 121 
Mayfair Park Maylene, AL EM63nf Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman 
for NRC & IRCA. Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 
Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. > On Jan 7, 2017, at 2:21 PM, 
Patrick Martin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Rick, > 
> Anytime people could always cheat. There were reports from back in the > 50s 
with faux reports. I like sending a cassette, reel to reel tape, > or now CD of 
what I heard so the CE could tell the reception quality > as well as it being 
accurate. But to give up totally on DX Tests > because of of a faux report or 
two, it ruins it for the rest of us. I > love catching the rare stations that 
could never be heard without a > test. One issue we are having is the 
reluctance of station personnel > to reply to any reports now. Even e mail 
replies are hard to obtain. > Even though I get fewer QSLs these days, I still 
go after them. But DX > Tests should still be viable in our hobby. We do not 
get many these > days as stations do not sign off like they did. I still look 
forward > to them when we get them. > > Patrick > > On 1/6/17, Rick Dau 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Sorry, 
DXers of the world, but it's high time that DX tests be done away >> with.... 
>> >> >> >> Back in the day, some unscrupulous participants in the hobby made 
it a >> practice of waiting about 2-3 weeks after tests were conducted, looking 
>> through the pages of DX News, DX Monitor, and other print publications, >> 
jotting down the details of what OTHERS were hearing, then sending their own >> 
faux reports based from those details off to the testing stations. Very >> 
often, engineers would happily mail back QSLs to the offenders, totally >> 
unaware of what was going on. Fortunately, a select few DID get wise to the >> 
shenanigans being perpetrated and then began conducting tests with the >> 
caveat that reports had to be mailed within a scant few days (say, within a >> 
week or so) after the test, or they would simply not reply to the report. >> 
This was, in effect, to curtail the cheating. >> >> >> >> But with the progress 
of technology comes a downside. Through reflectors >> such as these, along with 
message boards, DX chatrooms (WHEN they work), and >> other means of instant 
communication, the cheaters are once again seeing the >> information that 
others are posting without making their OWN efforts to hear >> the stations. DX 
tests were fun while they lasted, but, IMHO, they need to >> be put down. >> >> 
>> >> 73, >> >> Rick Dau >> >> South Omaha, Nebraska >> >> 
________________________________ >> From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of >> 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [ABDX] 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Friday, January 6, 
2017 5:48 PM >> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> 
Subject: [ABDX] Re: Rackley on Synchronous AM Boosters >> >> >> >> To answer 
Todd`s question about anyone hearing KKOB Santa Fe, recently >> in my reports 
and DXLD: >> >> Also, I have repeatedly called for a DX test to be arranged on 
Santa Fe >> only, turning off the main Albuquerque transmitter, however briefly 
(without >> of course, trying to set it up, myself; maybe I would if I still 
lived in >> ABQ) And now there is no CPC chairman. Glenn >> >> __._,_.___ >> 
________________________________ >> Posted by: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> __,_._,___ >> > 
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