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Chuck mentioned more modern Atom-based netbooks that can run Perseus captures
at full MW bandwidth successfully.
Presumably there's something out there in a small form factor (under 14 inch
screen) that can run full >= 1200 kHz width Elad captures also. Any info on
these will be appreciated.
Tablet with separate keyboard seems like a clunky option since, even though
it's two small pieces, it's still two pieces instead of one. More things to
lose, drop, break, get wet etc. out in "the bush." Touch screen character
entry is another possibility (as tablet and smartphone users well know) but do
you really want the pop-up on-screen keyboard covering part / most of the
receiver graphical interface window you need to see? Add in factors such as
glare, rain, snow, blowing sand / salt, space constraints, adverse temperature
conditions, possible need for gloves - maybe a sensitive touch screen device
isn't what really you'd want.
My opinion is that if a powerful enough traditional netbook size PC isn't
available, I'd still stick with a regular laptop even though the size is larger.
Packing a second charged-up laptop battery isn't a bad idea.
Regarding antennas, some shore sites around here don't have any significant
supports. Rocks and/or sand right near water's edge, beach grass / goldenrod /
low shrubs (rugosa rose, bayberry, etc.) right behind that. Larger shrubs and
small trees (beach plum, red cedar, pitch pine) might be found about 100 ft.
back. Often these are not particularly straight or tall because of constant
blasting by salt and sand laden winds.
So it's likely that a single collapsible fiberglass or similar non-metallic
pole of at least 3m / 10 ft. needs to come along to support the apex of a Delta
(triangular) shaped loop. Tent stakes with bungee cords can be used to tension
the ends. Kaz antenna 10-12 ft. high by 35-40 ft. wide gets you in the game if
you provide some amplification (Wellbrook, Lankford, Kiwa, DXE RPA-1, W7IUV,
etc.) between the antenna feedpoint and the receiver.
The delta shaped loop can be configured as a bidirectional (figure-of-8)
antenna instead of a terminated cardioid one if that suits the situation better.
Anchoring the support pole can be a non-trivial matter, especially in the type
of winds found at desirable seashore or mountaintop sites. Rocky or sandy
ground instead of sod doesn't help. A patio umbrella stand certainly works but
those puppies are usually at least 10 kg / 22 lb. How far would you want to
hike with that? Guy ropes and tent stakes might be easier. Still, if winds
are high, you may be limited to wires on the ground.
Vehicular-based DXpeditioning is an easier proposition. The 2m x 2m car roof
loop has worked well for me on beach DXpeditions for many years.
http://www.qsl.net/wa1ion/loop/car_roof_loop.htm
Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA
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From: Nick Hall-Patch <[email protected]>
To: Mark Connelly <[email protected]>; irca <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Mar 8, 2017 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Elad FDM-S2 initial testing
Thanks for the further observations Mark. I've traveledin the past with an
ALA100 and a chunk of wire, and almost always beenable to find a support of
some sort. One of the many advantages ofa loop is the ability to place it
close to the ground, and the ALA100 isquite resistant to noise from the feed
line. #22 wire andRG-174 feed line is light.
Hasn't the old style inexpensive netbook pretty much died out now? (ones with
RJ45 that can be used with Afedri or NetSDR / Cloud-IQ, pluslargish hard
drives, effectively a small laptop) One I had was ableto handle 1300kHz
bandwidth NetSDR recording with ease, but we weretalking about Elads, which
would be much preferable for travel, and theElad struggled on that machine.
There are several inexpensive tablets that have an accompanying keyboardwith
USB ports, but although the one I have is quite zippy, there isn'tmuch native
storage for SDR files. As I live in Canada, Irealize that I may not be aware
of all the options, and don't keep up todate very well anyway. Maybe Guy
Atkins has somethoughts?
best wishes,
Nick
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Mark -
It's bad science to quote the 9 year old MSI Wind with its first generation
Atom as an example of netbook/Perseus issues.
Semi-modern Atom processors are 3 to 4 times faster than the primitive N270
used in the Wind.
I have no problems running Perseus on the ubiquitous Z3735F tablets and
netbooks that are available for under $100. Just don't expect to surf the web,
make a spreadsheet, read a pdf file or Skype at the same time.
Chuck
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From: Mark Connelly <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 9:05 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Elad FDM-S2 initial testing
With the Perseus I had a similar experience. Atom-based netbook (MSI Wind) gave
me OK record / playback up to 800 kHz bandwidth but it couldn't cut the mustard
for 1600 kHz wide captures. Core i3 or higher: no problem.
Are DXers using any netbook form-factor PC's (screen 10 to 13 inch range) that
have i3 or better CPU's? Seems like that's what you'd really want for
backpacking. Battery life in excess of 4 hours (including the receiver's
loading) would be a plus.
Of course you still have to deal with getting an antenna out there, hopefully a
directional one. Roll of skinny wire to stretch on the ground + a matching /
isolation transformer might work but grounding still has to come into play.
Directivity would be sketchy at best. A wire loop is likely better (whether
cardioid or figure-of-8 pick-up). The support structure for that (when trees
are lacking) is going to be a bigger impediment to backpacking than the laptop
+ SDR combo. Tuned loops, of course, can be quite compact but then you're
essentially limited to one frequency at a time (live) DXing instead of wideband
capture for later analysis. Active whips are also compact but they can be
"noise getters" if placed within 20 ft. or so of the laptop. No directivity
with those either, although a shore site produces directivity independent of
the antenna. Single stick pattern of my 1240 local demonstrates that:
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/patg?id=WBAS-AM&h=D
(That map shows why Florida, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, etc. bomb in here
... Midwest not so much.)
I would always take a competent ultralight portable in the backpack as well,
just in case something with the PC + SDR goes "kerflooey." No sense to go out
there and come back with nothing, especially if considerable flying, driving,
biking, or hiking was involved.
Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA
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