That's make sense :-)
On Apr 22, 2009, at 3:29 AM, Jimmy Schementi wrote:
Yeah, me and Jim were hitting our heads when we saw this =P Though,
using CodePlex has definite benefits for exposure to the .NET
community, while just having our source-code on github gives great
exposure to the Ruby community. So the best of both worlds =)
From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org
] On Behalf Of jirapong.na...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:04 AM
To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org
Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] Proposal: Moving IronRuby bugs to
CodePlex
Oops, This is too late but Github's issue tracker!
http://github.com/blog/411-github-issue-tracker
On Apr 10, 2009, at 6:38 AM, Jimmy Schementi wrote:
http://ironruby.codeplex.com is live. Please direct any bug
submissions and downloads of IronRuby to this site, rather than
RubyForge. RubyForge bugs will be moved (as appropriate) to CodePlex
over time, and v0.3 is on CodePlex, along with sources. Releases may
be posted to both sites, simply for exposure, but please link to the
CodePlex copy (as http://ironruby.net/Download does).
RubyForge’s only use is now the mailing list, though I’m looking to
move that as well (with minimal downtime to this list). I’ll keep
you all posted.
~Jimmy
From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org
] On Behalf Of Jimmy Schementi
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:02 PM
To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org
Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] Proposal: Moving IronRuby bugs to
CodePlex
No objections/concerns/thoughts/concerns/praises/gifts-of-gold-
frankincense-and-myrrh? Ok then ...
http://ironruby.codeplex.com/ has been created, and once live all
bugs will be stored there. Jim is going through RubyForge bugs
slowly, closing ones that are fixed, and possibly moving important
ones over to CodePlex. I'll let you all know when CodePlex is open
for business.
~js
From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org
] On Behalf Of Jimmy Schementi
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:36 PM
To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org
Subject: [Ironruby-core] Proposal: Moving IronRuby bugs to CodePlex
(I originally planned on sending this yesterday, but I waited until
today to remove the “April Fools” possibility =P)
I’d like to propose moving IronRuby’s bugs off of RubyForge.
CodePlex looks like the best option, mainly due to the voting
feature for bugs. Here are some possible options for defect
tracking, and what I think about them:
Lighthouse: http://lighthouseapp.com
Sample site: http://silverline.lighthouseapp.com
Very usable, nice UI, and I’m a sucker for those types of things.
They support multiple projects, so splitting up the project into
Compiler, Libraries, Silverlight, etc, would be very clear. There’s
also a nice UI for milestone progress, making it fairly clear how
the progress is going. Also, other Ruby projects are moving here, so
a move to Lighthouse would follow the logic of why we started on
RubyForge.
Lighthouse also has integration with GitHub, keeping our lighthouse
page up-to-date with any changes in git.
Lighthouse is usually a pay-service, but I believe they have free
hosting for open-source projects. However, there might be limits on
how many projects can be created, or users can be admins, so it’d be
good to find out these details.
Unfortunately, there’s no good way to prioritize tickets other than
milestones, and non-project-admins can’t change the milestone, so we
can’t accomplish any type of user-prioritization (voting) on tickets.
RubyForge: http://rubyforge.org
Sample site: http://rubyforge.org/projects/ironruby
We’re on RubyForge currently, so switching to RubyForge would be
easy. =P Unfortunately, that’s about the only benefit it provides.
While RubyForge has been instrumental in shaping the Ruby community,
it appears that its heydays have passed, in favor of GitHub and
lighthouse. RubyForge also appears to be unmaintained, especially in
light of our crazy mailing list delays. File releases are still
being used by the Ruby community, mainly because of it being a Ruby
Gems repository, so we should keep releasing on it.
CodePlex: http://codeplex.com
Sample site: http://ironpython.codeplex.com
CodePlex has turned into a pretty awesome open-source project site.
In the past I wouldn’t have wanted to move to CodePlex, but now
there defect tracking features seem like the best, and much faster
than they use to be. You can use the web interface, the team
foundation client, or CodePlex client to look at bugs, which makes
it pretty easy to keep on-top of them. Since CodePlex uses TFS
underneath to store work-items and bugs, we can use the TFS API to
do git commit integration and things like that (though the TFS API
isn’t the greatest, it exists =P). But mainly the web interface has
voting support, so our tickets can be prioritized by community
feedback very easily … this is definitely the killer feature for me.
As I said, I’m leaning heavily towards CodePlex, mainly for the
voting support. IronPython uses this very successfully, and it would
help prioritize IronRuby’s work, especially post-1.0.
So here’s the proposal:
1. Go through open RubyForge bugs, closing bugs as necessary,
and narrowing in on a subset to move to CodePlex (jdeville has begun
closing bugs).
2. Create http://ironruby.codeplex.com (already reserved, just
waiting to set things up and turn it on), and use it for *Issues*
and *Releases* only. We will link tohttp://wiki.github.com/ironruby/ironruby
for other developer information, and http://ironruby.net for
general users, from the project homepage, and no other wiki pages
will be used.
3. Releases will be the only things remaining on RubyForge, as
it’s still the standard place for Ruby releases, though any release
announcements/blogs will point to the CodePlex release.
4. CodePlex discussion forums will not be used, as they and
will remain on RubyForge for now (though we need to resolve the
crazy delays soon).
Thoughts?
~Jimmy
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