On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 09:58 +0100, Ivan Porto Carrero wrote: > You can also look in my github account the samples for my book are > published there.
Thanks Ivan, I will. > I don't have Webforms or Winforms samples there (except for the one > provided by thibaut for his Magic DSL), because I declared those techs > dead a few years ago. I know what you mean, but sometimes when a technology's declared "dead" is when it becomes ubiquitous enough to be useful! :) > A GUI toolkit I want to give a try sometime in the future is clutter > http://www.clutter-project.org/docs/clutter/stable/. > It's a .NET based OSS OpenGL GUI toolkit. But all those toolkits IMHO > are really stop gaps until SL is mature enough and Moonlight gets to > SL4. (SL3 => no rich-text editor which is used often in LOB apps, OOB > mode is still sandboxed) Yeah, that would be a problem for me. This is essentially LOB-ish. Cheers, ast > --- > Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations > Ivan Porto Carrero > Blog: http://flanders.co.nz > Google Wave: portocarrero.i...@googlewave.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim > Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero) > > > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Andrew S. Townley <a...@atownley.org> > wrote: > Hi Ivan, > > On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 09:04 +0100, Ivan Porto Carrero wrote: > > http://dlrci.colliertech.org/ironruby/ > > > > > > Those builds are done on a mono machine > > > Thanks for the pointer to the other builds. I'll give that a > go later > today. I did notice the thing about the console (with the > colors), but > from google, it seems that's a Mono issue and not an IronRuby > issue. > > > The console is a bit wonky at this point on mono. I don't > know if it's > > a mono thing or an IronRuby thing but you can't use arrow > keys in the > > console or tab etc. It takes the characters just doesn't > interpret > > them. > > > I occasionally use irb for quick tests, but most of the time, > I just > write simple little scripts and run them with the main ruby > interpreter. > > > > > To make something run on linux download one of the packages > and > > extract in a folder, then add the bin path in that folder to > your PATH > > env variable. > > > > > > The thing is the demo you tried are WPF demo's and they > don't work on > > mono because mono doesn't implement that technology. > > > It's been a while since I did any C# development (pre-WPF), > and that was > mostly command-line and library stuff. I did do a few > WinForms things, > but not a lot. > > Sorry for the confusion. > > > If you're going cross-platform and you want a similar > experience on > > all platforms you're probably looking at using Qt, GTK# or > Winforms at > > this as GUI toolkit. > > In about 8-10 months I guess silverlight 3 is a good option, > and when > > moonlight catches up to silverlight 4 then Silverlight is > the only > > choice that makes sense (money and time wise) I guess for > building > > cross-platform apps and providing the same experience on all > of them. > > > WinForms was my plan for the moment. Going the silverlight > route is too > many layers of alpha for what I'm trying to do (my own stuff, > IronRuby > and the UI toolkit would just be too much! :) > > > IronRuby is the Ruby language on the .NET framework so if > you're new > > to both it can hurt and the msdn docs don't yet show a ruby > language > > tickbox so it will be of great help if you at least know how > to read > > C# or VB. > > I hope this helps you to get started, if not keep sending > emails :) > > > Thanks for the help and the pointers. I would've done most of > my C# > with .NET 1.1, but I've been using ruby pretty actively for > about 5 > years, including fighting with trying to use MRI and GTK+ on > Linux for > the last couple of years and experiencing random crashes due > to the > incompatible threading models. > > Even if I have to use the WinForms package for the UI (which I > vaguely > remember from doing some MFC work back in 99-01), at least > there's a > common, underlying runtime for all the bits that should play > nicer > together than what I've been doing. > > Ruby 1.9 isn't an option for me because I have too many > dependencies > that don't seem to work without changes (based on a quick > re-try of that > last night). > > Again, thanks for all the help. That should be enough to get > me up and > running, and Thibaut sent me a link to some WinForms/IronRuby > examples > too. I'll let you know if I have any more issues getting > started. > > Cheers, > > ast > > > --- > > Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations > > Ivan Porto Carrero > > Blog: http://flanders.co.nz > > Google Wave: portocarrero.i...@googlewave.com > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim > > Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero) > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Andrew S. Townley > <a...@atownley.org> > > wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > > > Since I hear such good things about the rate at > which features > > are being > > added to the project (and since it coincides with > needing to > > write some > > cross-platform UI code), I thought I'd give the new > version a > > go. > > > > Here's my environment: > > $ mono --version > > Mono JIT compiler version 2.4.2.3 (tarball Mon Nov > 23 08:34:29 > > GMT 2009) > > Copyright (C) 2002-2008 Novell, Inc and > Contributors. > > www.mono-project.com > > TLS: __thread > > GC: Included Boehm (with typed GC) > > SIGSEGV: altstack > > Notifications: epoll > > Architecture: amd64 > > Disabled: none > > > > $ mono bin/ir.exe --version > > IronRuby 0.9.2.0 on .NET 2.0.0.0 > > > > $ uname -a > > Linux linna 2.6.24-25-generic #1 SMP Tue Oct 20 > 06:49:12 UTC > > 2009 x86_64 > > GNU/Linux > > > > I'm having all kinds of trouble getting the examples > to even > > run. When > > I try any of them, I get complaints about not being > able to > > load > > libraries, e.g. the DiskUse demo: > > > > $ mono ../../bin/ir.exe app.rb > > :0:in `require': no such file to load -- WindowsBase > > (LoadError) > > from app.rb:16 > > > > ...not to mention having all sorts of issues getting > the > > command-line > > tools to run in Linux due to environment issues that > I don't > > really > > understand (and I've been a Linux user since 1993 > and a UNIX > > user since > > 1990). It sure seems like there's some environment > magic > > that's needed, > > but I can't figure out what it really is. Nothing > that I've > > tried that > > seemed like it should work did the trick. > > > > Q: is there an up-to-date guide for getting > IronRuby working > > with Mono > > 2.4 anywhere? Everything I could find with google > seemed at > > least 2 yrs > > old. There aren't any obvious links from either the > ironruby > > website or > > from the mono site. > > > > Clearly based on Jimmy's OSCON 2009 post: > > > > http://blog.jimmy.schementi.com/2009/07/ironruby-at-oscon-2009-mono-moonlight.html, > it should all be working swimmingly. > > > > Apologies if this is a really dumb question. > > > > For what I need to do at the moment, I need to > quickly > > prototype some > > small applications that need to work on Windows, > Linux and > > OSX. From > > what I've seen, .NET & Mono seem to be the only real > choice > > for this at > > the moment, but I'd prefer to not have to write C# > code when > > I'm doing > > the prototypes (plus I've lots of ruby library code > that I've > > already > > written for other purposes). > > > > What's the quickest way to get everything up and > running (with > > some > > examples of actually running stuff from the command > line on > > Linux)? > > > > Thanks in advance for your assistance. I'm looking > forward to > > seeing > > what I can do with IronRuby since I looked at it a > few months > > ago. :) > > > > Cheers, > > > > ast > > -- > > Andrew S. Townley <a...@atownley.org> > > http://atownley.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ironruby-core mailing list > > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ironruby-core mailing list > > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core > > -- > > Andrew S. Townley <a...@atownley.org> > http://atownley.org > > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core -- Andrew S. 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