Cut and paste works much better with this version!

I still have to get to grips with a lot of very basic things, e.g. I gather 
some sort of auto complete mechanism exists…

Larry

On 20 Apr 2012, at 14:11, Makarius wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Christian Sternagel wrote:
> 
>> On 04/18/2012 03:42 PM, Lawrence Paulson wrote:
> 
>>> A further problem is you cannot cut and paste between the “proof" window 
>>> and the main window, so good luck creating any structured proofs (unless 
>>> you love typing lots of formal text and never make mistakes). And on a Mac, 
>>> the keyboard shortcuts are different from the usual.
> 
>> I don't get it. Copying and pasting between the output buffer and the main 
>> buffer works just fine for me (a bit odd is that you have to use Ctrl+C and 
>> Ctrl+V
> 
> Chris is a lucky Linux user who does not know all the snags of Apple's Java 
> 6, which was hardly maintained for many years and officially deprecated last 
> year.  Until Java 8 is officially shipped by Oracle (probably in 2013), one 
> has to live with some limitations on that platform.
> 
> Nonetheless, copy-paste between the Output panel (which is not a jEdit 
> buffer) and a jEdit buffer or any other GUI container should work, even with 
> regular COMMAND-C/V on Mac OS.
> 
> Larry could you try it again with the fully integrated test version from 
> http://www4.in.tum.de/~wenzelm/test/website/download.html ?
> 
> 
> Also note that the official specification of shortcomings and other platform 
> "features" in the Proper Session README says something like this:
> 
>  The MacOSX plugin for jEdit disrupts regular C-X/C/V operations, e.g.
>  between the editor and the Console plugin, which is a standard swing
>  text box. Similar for search boxes etc.
> 
> This plugin is an optional add-on for jEdit.  It changes a little over time, 
> and sometimes does good sometimes bad things.  Few Mac users contribute to 
> jEdit significantly to keep things working smoothly. I've developed a habit 
> to disable all Mac specific configuration of jEdit, apart from the main 
> Look-and-feel, in order to make more things work as expected.
> 
> 
>> the linux-typical marking with mouse and middle click does not work
> 
> This vintage copy-paste feature from X11 is emulated specifically in jEdit 
> via the "Quick copy using middle mouse button".  I've enabled this by default 
> for Isabelle/jEdit for convenience, but it is by construction restricted to 
> jEdit text buffers.
> 
> The Output panel is just another Swing component (Lobo HTML browser), not a 
> text buffer.  This explains its slightly different copy-paste behaviour, 
> according to standard Java/Swing customs.
> 
> Lobo is OK for what is does right now, but I am waiting for Larry Ellison to 
> release the full HTML5 webpane for JVM 7 or 8 within the next year, or so.  
> Then we can do much more with the Output panel, apart from plain copy-paste 
> that already works better than for most PG/Emacs combinations that I've seen 
> over many years.
> 
> 
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