Dear Larry

please note that my proposal is not just about a split of the existing theory Zorn.thy, but also about a modernization of part of it (which I think makes it easier to understand, but I might be wrong... could be that the main purpose of this experiment was just to make me understand the formalized proofs ;)) as well as adding new facts (the order-extension principle). So please consider it, even if no split is done.

Nevertheless. Separating facts that are about the subset relation from the more general version of Zorn's lemma would make sense for at least one purpose: reusing the former in developments that use a different definition of partial order (and that are "incompatible" with the latter).

As to the point that a split would make examination of past versions more difficult. How do you mean? True, it would be hard to compare a version that comes somewhere after the split with one somewhere before the split (via plain diff), but how often does that happen? Isn't the typical use-case comparison of successive changesets?

cheers

chris

On 02/27/2013 08:49 PM, Lawrence Paulson wrote:
I don't see the point of splitting Zorn into multiple files. It isn't 
especially large. Such a change really has nothing to do with the question of 
locating proved results, and it would make it harder to examine past versions.
Larry

On 27 Feb 2013, at 05:57, Christian Sternagel <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear all,

in the meanwhile I had a close look at the existing Zorn.thy (mostly to 
understand the proof myself) and came up with the following proposal:

see

https://bitbucket.org/csternagel/zorns-lemma-and-the-well-ordering-theorem/

for the related hg repository (from which you will hopefully merge into the 
Isabelle repo ;)).

I propose the following changes to ~~/src/HOL/Cardinals and ~~/src/HOL/Library.

1) Make facts about the ordinal sum available in a separate theory, to avoid 
too early dependency on the old ~~/src/HOL/Library/Zorn. This is a prerequisite 
to make the remainder of my proposal work. (see Ordinal_Sum.thy)

2) Split the current Zorn.thy into three separate parts.

  - Zorn_Subset.thy
    Here we are only concerned with the special case of Zorn's lemma for the 
subset relation. This constitutes a modernized version of the old Zorn.thy, 
employing locales for structuring (cf. Andrei's rel locale in 
~~/src/HOL/Cardinals; I find this kind of structuring very convenient) and only 
Isar proofs (some of the old apply scripts were very brittle, e.g., using auto 
or simp as initial proof steps). Hopefully it is also easier to understand than 
the old scripts (or maybe it is just because I spend so much time with the 
proofs ;)).

  - Zorn.thy
    The general version of Zorn's lemma for arbitrary partial orders.

  - Well_Ordering_Theorem.thy
    The well-ordering-theorem. It seems important enough to give it it's own 
theory. Moreover, in the previous setup it seemed to be easily overlooked (not 
even some Isabelle veterans knew whether it was already formalized).

3) Add a formalization of the well-order extension theorem to 
~~/src/HOL/Library. (see Well_Order_Extension.thy)

In My_Zorn.thy it is illustrated that the new structure is more versatile than 
the old one. It is, e.g,. very easy to combine it with my alternative 
definitions of partial orders (po_on from 
AFP/Well_Quasi_Orders/Restricted_Predicates).

cheers

chris

On 02/21/2013 01:58 PM, Christian Sternagel wrote:
Dear all,

how about adding Andrei's proof (discussed on isbelle-users) to
HOL/Library (or somewhere else)? I polished the latest version (see
attachment).

cheers

chris

PS: In case you are wondering: "Why is he interested in these results?"
Here is my original motivation: In term rewriting, termination tools
employ simplification orders (like the Knuth-Bendix order, the
lexicographic path order, ...) whose definition is often based on a
given well-partial-order as precedence. However, termination tools
typically use well-founded partial orders as precedences. Thus we need
to be able to extend a given well-founded (partial order) relation to a
well-partial-order when we want to apply the theoretical results about
simplification orders to proofs that are generated by termination tools.
(Since every total well-order is also a well-partial-order, this is
possible by the above mentioned results.)


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