I'm just trying to make sure that we remain "open". The ASF doesn't like meetings and decisions going on in "back rooms" somewhere. We need to maintain an open forum for our projects. I agree that it's nice to be able to get together to talk some things through and it's a nice way to build a community, but I know there have been times when these off-line dicussions/meetings were frowned upon elsewhere within the ASF in the past. Just trying to avoid that.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:46 PM, dan haywood <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi James, > I don't think traceability is too much of a concern; a skype call isn't > likely to be a very good forum by which really important decisions can be > discussed. In fact, the skype call is rather a good mechanism by which to > remind people of their responsibilities within the community, and that the > right place for such decisions is on isis-dev (which was done last night). > > Judging by the reactions, it seems that people enjoyed the call, and it's > helped bind the community together. And after all, growing the community is > what incubation is all about. > > You're right that we do need to ensure that there aren't concerns about lack > of perceived traceability. I do have a to-do action to write up some of the > main points discussed on the talk and post to isis-dev. Let me do that this > weekend, at any rate. I'm hoping that we take the view that will suffice. > > Cheers > Dan > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > On 19 November 2010 17:29, James Carman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't know about this. Whatever we do has to be trackable and >> "open", so I don't know about this Skype stuff. Requiring folks to >> watch a video or listen to an audio recording rather than reading a >> transcript is probably not a good idea. I'm copying the general list >> to see what others have to say. >> >> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Good idea >> > >> > +1 on the Skype monthly meeting. >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Alexander Krasnukhin >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> At least it makes me feel ISIS is really going somewhere. I don't know >> how >> >> to explain this. E.g. there are some real ALIVE people involved :). >> >> >> >> Monthly is good. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mike Burton <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> >> >>> Yes very useful interesting and enjoyable, thanks for organising it. >> Yes >> >>> monthly similar would be good. >> >>> >> >>> Mike >> >>> >> >>> On 19 Nov 2010, at 10:49, Dan Haywood <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > First off, thanks to all for attending, and I really enjoyed the >> >>> opportunity. Hope it was useful. It was nice, actually, to read the >> >>> transcript on the Skype IM call afterwards (I didn't get the oppo to do >> that >> >>> while I was demo'ing). >> >>> > >> >>> > Second, my apols that I didn't have the demo working. Of course, >> after >> >>> the call finished I figured out the problem in about 2 minutes. At any >> >>> rate, the details on running the demo for yourselves are on the >> "SmokeTest" >> >>> page on the wiki [1]. >> >>> > >> >>> > Third, per a recording, like Kevin I also recorded the call using >> >>> CallGraph, though mine seems to have recorded ok. It's about 92Mb, >> >>> recorded it in stereo, and what Skype did is distribute the voices >> across >> >>> the spectrum, which I think is quite nice. Anyway, I've just uploaded >> it to >> >>> my dropbox account and I'll post the URL on isis-private. (If you >> aren't >> >>> subscribed there, contact me directly). >> >>> > >> >>> > Lastly, it'd be nice to do a similar call like that now and again. >> We >> >>> could perhaps set one up every month, attendance purely optional. >> Thoughts? >> >>> > >> >>> > Cheers >> >>> > Dan >> >>> > >> >>> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/ISIS/smoketest.html >> >>> > >> >>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>> > >> >>> > On 18/11/2010 20:08, Kevin Meyer - KMZ wrote: >> >>> >> Hi Dan, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Thanks for organizing the call. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I was not able to record the entire call - Of the 56 minutes >> captured, a >> >>> >> lot of it is silence. I'm not sure if it is an issue with the app or >> my >> >>> >> machine. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Anyway, thanks to all who participated, it was good to be able to >> >>> >> associate voices with the emails. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Regards, >> >>> >> Kevin >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> Alexander >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Thanks >> > - Mohammad Nour >> > Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User >> Guide) >> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html >> > - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >> > - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com >> > ---- >> > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep >> moving" >> > - Albert Einstein >> > >> > "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a >> > professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less >> > than your best." >> > - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship >> > >> > "Stay hungry, stay foolish." >> > - Steve Jobs >> > >> >
