I certainly don't want to distract you from your priorities and agree to work from back to front. The project doesn't need another half baked viewer now so I'll probably invest some time in learning Wicket and the viewer.
Thanks, Jeroen On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Dan Haywood <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jeroen, > > yes, I created that project a few years back, [coincidentally at the same > conference that I met Oliver Gierke, cf the thread on querydsl], when I > first encountered Vaadin. There were some guys from Vaadin showing off > their framework on a stand, and I was impressed too. I agree with your > comments that Vaadin probably does fit better with intranet-style apps > rather than internet apps. I sort-of hoped that I'd get some of the Vaadin > community to contribute to building that viewer; I did elicit a few commits > from one of their guys, but not much more. > > So, that code on the sourceforge project is definitely a starting point, > but there's very little to salvage there. Since that work, I worked on the > Wicket viewer, and if we were to have a Vaadin viewer then I think the > internal design of the Wicket viewer (chain of responsibility of view > factories) is probably the way to go. > > Perhaps a starting point might be to start a project either on > apache-extras.org, or on github, and I'll spend a bit of time getting a > tiny walking skeleton going. Then yourself or whoever can contribute in > there, with a view to moving the codebase into Apache Isis "proper" as and > when. > > For myself, my priorities right now are the JPA objectstore, then the > Restful viewer, then probably finish off the Wicket viewer (just because > it's pretty close to being done). After that its probably a toss-up > between a JDO object store or a Vaadin viewer. All of these are big enough > mini-projects to keep me off the streets! > > Dan > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > On 31 May 2012 23:59, Jeroen van der Wal > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> >> wrote: > >> Hi Dan, >> >> I came across a project on SourceForge for a Vaadin viewer for Naked >> Objects and you were one of the the committers. I was wondering what >> the status is, perhaps it's something to revive? We did some >> prototypes with Vaadin in another project and were very impressed with >> the richness of the components. When building polished business >> applications I would choose Vaadin over Wicket, especially for the >> fact that you don't have to deal with all the layout and CSS stuff. >> Building websites I would probably choose Wicket for it's flexibility, >> the drawback of Vaadin is that if you want to change the design you >> have to do a lot of work. But personally I know very little developers >> who are skilled designers too. I have to say that I have no experience >> with Wicket so my opinion is biased and might be totally incorrect. >> >> Cheers, >> Jeroen >> >> [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/vaadinobjects/ >>
