Hi Shradha,

please see inline:



On 14/10/17 19:13 , Shraddha Hegde wrote:
Peter,

Pls see inline..

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Psenak [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 8:03 PM
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draft-hegde-isis-advertising-te-protocols

Hi Shraddha,

please see inline:

On 13/10/17 15:49 , Shraddha Hegde wrote:
Stephane,

In certain cases MPLS forwarding may not be supported on some legacy linecards.

The problem you are describing is not SR specific, it would apply to LDP as 
well. So the indication should not be about SR, but about MPLS forwarding 
support on interface.

With MPLS being deployed for more then 20 years, I wonder why there was no need 
to solve this issue earlier and why we need to address it now with SR.

Since these links should be used for IP forwarding IGPs will advertise these 
links.
It is better to have explicit indication of this rather than use absence of 
adjacency-sid on the link.

With the new SR flag, while the SPF and the SR-Path does not change,
there is an indication To the controller and head-end nodes that the links 
cannot do SR-MPLS forwarding.
The controller or head-end implementations may have mechanisms to
prevent pulling Traffic on SR paths. When Head-end node detects a
prefix-sid path going through such incapable links It may skip
installing SR paths for such prefix-SID and implementations may decide
to use other mechanisms (such as RSVP or IP) at the head-end which would 
prevent Traffic loss.

This is also a useful tool during transition to SR when  certain links
should avoid carrying SR traffic due to operational reasons.

   >  there are standardized mechanisms like affinities that can be used to 
address above mentioned operational issue.

These mechanisms are specific to SR-TE when the paths are built based on 
constraints.
Link color based solution cannot be used when the SR traffic is flowing over 
SPF paths using Node-SIDs.

as we discussed this privately before (and agreed I believe), if we need to address this case, it will be about MPLS enablement not about SR. Do you agree?

I'm willing to accept the need to advertise the MPLS enablement on the link, if people believe the use case is valid. I have some doubts there though, due to the long history of this problem.

thanks,
Peter



thanks,
Peter



Rgds
Shraddha

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Hi Authors,

One question, why do you think it is really needed to introduce the SR flag ? 
Couldn't it be deduced from the presence of an Adj-SID and the SR router cap ?
The SR flag unset while the router supports SR looks strange to me. Why do you want to 
prevent "SR forwarding" on a link if the node supports SR ?

" With this information, a centralized
     application can decide to use a different path for that traffic by
     using a different label stack."
In such a case, the usage of a Node-SID may be complex, as the Node-SID may 
cross a link with the SR flag unset. This will force the controller to use 
Adj-SIDs only.
If the controller uses only Adj-SIDs, then an implementation can allow the user 
to prevent the advertisement of Adj-SIDs on a particular link.

Could you clarify the use case here ?


Thanks,



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Subject: [Isis-wg] WG Adoption poll for
draft-hegde-isis-advertising-te-protocols

Hi Folks,

The authors have requested the IS-IS WG adopt


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