Hi Alia,
1. I see a benefit in having the BIER a way to map to any of the IGP
algorithms. Simply because IGPs already provide paths to all nodes in
the domain and BIER can simply use these paths instead of computing its own.
2. Not sure if people plan to deploy the BIER in a model where it does
its own topology related computations, independent of IGPs. If they do,
I'm not objecting that.
The encoding of the BAR though must be done in a way that it easily
supports both (1) and (2).
my 2c,
Peter
On 19/02/18 22:51 , Alia Atlas wrote:
As the Sponsoring AD for draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-07 and
draft-ietf-bier-ospf-extensions-12, I have been following the discussion
on the mailing list with interest.
I have not seen clear consensus for any change.
Let me be clear on what I see the options are from the discussion. Then
I'll elaborate
a bit on how you can express your perspective most usefully.
1) Current Status: Bier Algorithm (BAR) field is 8 bits. Currently,
only value 0 is specified. The drafts do not have an IANA registry -
with the expectation that one will be created when the first additional
use is clear. It is possible that there will be objections from the
IESG to progressing without an IANA registry. Given the lack of clarity
for future use-cases and after discussion, I decided not to force one
after my AD review - but I will not push back against having a BIER IANA
registry if raised by others.
2) Option B: Add a BAR sub-type of 8 bits. This would modify the
current TLVs.
Define an IANA registry for the BAR type. The meaning of the BAR
sub-type derives
from the BAR type. We can debate over the registration policy for
the BAR type.
3) Option C: Change the BAR field to be 16 bits and define an IANA
registry. Part of the range can be FCFS with Expert Review, part can be
Specification Required, and part can be IETF Consensus.
4) Option D: At some point in the future, if there is an actual
understood and documented need, a BAR sub-type could be added a
sub-TLV. The length of the BAR sub-type could be determined when the
sub-TLV is defined.
Given
a) option D exists
b) there is currently only one defined value for BAR
c) I do not see strong consensus for change to one particular other
option
I see no current reason for a change and I certainly see absolutely no
reason for
a delay in progressing the documents.
I do want to be clear about what the WG wants to do on this issue.
Therefore, here is
my following request.
Please send your feedback to the mailing list as follows:
IF you prefer or can accept the current status, please say so. No more
justification
or reasoning is required. I just don't want the bulk of folks who are
content to be
overlooked by those suggesting change.
IF you prefer or can accept the current status, but think there should
be an IANA registry
as is usual for managing code-points, please say so. No more
justification is needed.
IF you prefer Option B, C, and/or D, please say so with your
explanation. More technical depth than "'we might need it" would be
helpful; the availability of sub-TLVs already
provides future proofing.
IF you have a clear technical objection to why the Current Status is not
acceptable,
please express that - with clear details.
IF you feel that additional code-points should be allocated in a BAR
IANA Registry or
have thoughts on the appropriate policy, please say so with your
explanation for what
those should be.
Unless I see clear and strong consensus for something other than the
Current Status,
that will remain.
IF there is clear and strong consensus for Option B, C, or D, or adding
an IANA registry with particular values, then it will be possible to
have a change up through this Weds night - with a 1 week WGLC on that
particular technical change.
My priority is to have the base BIER specifications published as
Proposed Standards so that more BIER implementations and deployment can
be done. I would like the WG to wrap up the core work (as expressed in
the proposed recharter) so that you all can look
at how to use it.
Given this topic was raised last Weds and given that there are no
technical objections raised to the documents as are, there isn't much
time - so please just respond to this email ASAP. My deadline for a
decision is 6pm EST on Weds.
Regards,
Alia
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