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To: Fwd: Zionism and democracy & The Arab's rights in their land
"Adib S.Kawar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Zionism and democracy
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The Arab's rights in their land
Dear FriendsCommenting on my letter to the editor of the Globe in reference to the article: "Does Israel want Arab democracy?" By Jeff Jacoby, I receive a message from a Zionist without a name the E-mail address of whom is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I don't care to comment on his message direct to him for known reasons, may I say s...... remarks, but for the interest of those who receive such mail, I would like to put, as we say in Arabic, the dots on the letters to make sense.He wrote: "What does Israel have to do with the 21 Arab rulers." Zionists came on the backs of western colonialism and stole the land of Palestine, and with their help expelled its indigenous Arab people from their homes and land, plus from other parts of Arab land like the Golan Heights and the Shibaa farms, this occupied land is as dear to the Arab people as their lives and blood. When I say: "If the Arab people are the masters of their fate they will be free to resist their subjugation to their autocratic rulers, Zionist and colonialist interests." I mean that because unfortunately we have autocratic rulers who are supported and protected by western colonialism and its spearhead in the heart of our land, Palestine, and its neighborhood, we lack democracy, the Arab people are not free to act and get rid of the presence colonialism and Zionism, but this will not be for long when puppet Arab rulers are no more there. I hope this is clear enough for a Zionist to understand if he has the intention and the ability to understand!!! The Zionist said: "I never knew Israel was somehow connected to them." No, I mean that they are connected to you and your allies, western colonialism. That is why colonialism and Zionism does not want Arab democracy.The Zionist added: "More Palestinians have been killed by Arabs, then by Israel." If this is true that is why we want to be free and democratic by getting rid of dictatorial puppet rulers in our land, any how, what right does Zionists have to invade our country and kill Palestinians and other Arabs. Don't repeat the scrap of the promised land and the chosen people, when you come from central Asian roots. By the way during the 1982 Zionist invasion of Lebanon not less than 20,000 Lebanese, Syrians and Palestinians were massacred. During the 1956 and 1967 invasions of the Egyptian Sinai Zionists savageness ended with the cold-blooded murder of hundreds of thousands surrendering Egyptian soldiers, Zionist soldiers as always fulfill their officers orders, such as Dayan's and Sharon's, saying: "Don't take prisoners", what does that mean.
Hear this ugly joke: "Israel offered the Palestinians a state, something no Arab country ever did." Israel offering Palestinians a state!!! First on a minuscule part of our occupied land, and they are offering it to us? Second, we don't want to have a state in any other part of the Arab land than in Palestine itself with all the uprooted Palestinians returning to their homes and land."Next your going to blame Israel for Arafat stealing billions and keeping his people poor." Palestinians are impoverished by Zionist occupation, stealth of land, demolishing thousands of homes, grazing fields and uprooting millions of all sort of productive and forest trees, massacring the money earners of families and their babies, creating an apartheid by walling the land and cities, your treacherous check points... last but not least the presence of Zionist savageness...."Don't you realize that the 1.3 million Arab citizens in Israel have full citizenship rights???" Yes, I realize that those 1,300,000 Palestinian Arabs are what remained in their land separated from the rest of the many millions of Palestinians Zionism uprooted from their homes and land. Those 1,300,000 are in their land not yours, but they are treated as third if not fourth class citizens, with the privileges a citizen is supposed to have in the so-called "only democracy in the Middle East". If a state discriminates among its citizens then it not a democracy, democracy is propaganda in the Zionist entity! "That Arabs have elected leaders in Israel's Knesset. .... 13 to be exact." The Knesset is in the wrong place. We call for a Palestinian and secular state in historic Palestine, and we accept non-racists citizens in it. A state for All the Palestinians and the Jews who are presently in Palestine even though foreigners. They will be treated as full fledged citizens, although they have no right to be there in the first place. Don't tell me Arabs want to throw the Jews into the see, Zionists threw millions of Palestinians out of their homes and land, and they are depriving them of the right of return."Can you tell me how many Jews are in any Arab goverment. Let me answer? Zero" For the information of those brain polluted Jews by Zionism, There were hundreds of thousands of Arab Jews in most Arab countries, Zionism either misled or terrorized Arab Jews to leave their Arab homeland to go to occupied Palestine were they were discriminated against. Are you aware of the story of how Iraqi Arab Jews were terrorized to leave their ancestral land and emigrate to occupied Palestine? Mossad agents threw bombs on synagogues to frighten those Arab Jews!!! When the vast majority of Arab Jews desert their homeland how do you expect them to be represented in their government?"Could you comment as to WHY the "apartheid regime" in Israeli provides Arabs with the right to vote...." and so on... The apartheid regime exists in the 1967 occupied Palestinian territories... I hope that you are not blind to see what is going on there, as I have tried to explain here above. As for the 1948 occupied parts of Palestine Palestinians there are treated, as we said above, as 3rd if nor 4th class citizens even though they have their papers, right of assembly, right to practice their religion, right to own their own newspapers and the right of free speech... but when theydemonstrate like in the year 2000 13 were shot dead.Minorities in the Arab land are treated as full fledged citizens, and they are in their land and homes, speaking about Christians, I am A Christian Arab, and not as you Zionists look at religious sects as nationalities, I am a full-fledged citizen, but I am denied the right to return to my home in occupied Palestine, which is not your land, it is mine.AdibFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hello, I had to respond to something you wrote in an article.
You say,
If the Arab people are the masters of their fate they will be free to resist their subjugation to their autocratic rulers, Zionist and colonialist interests.What does Israel have to do with the 21 Arab rulers.
I never knew Israel was somehow connected to them.Then you say, Jeff Jacoby, is a racialist who thinks that only Israelis has the right to live even in the occupied land of others, meaning Arab blood and future has no value for him.
More Palestinians have been killed by Arabs, then by Israel.
Israel offered the Palestinians a state, something no Arab country ever did.
Next your going to blame Israel for Arafat stealing billions and keeping his people poor.
Don't you realize that the 1.3 million Arab citizens in Israel have full citizenship rights???
That Arabs have elected leaders in Israel's Knesset. .... 13 to be exact.
Can you tell me how many Jews are in any Arab goverment.
Let me answer? Zero.
Could you comment as to WHY the "apartheid regime" in Israeli provides Arabs with the right to vote....
and the right of assembly
and the right to practice their religion
and they right to own their own newspapers
and the right of free speech...
Have you ever seen how minorities live in the Arab world.
Kurds, Coptics, Black Christians of Sudan, Berbers, Chaldeans.
There treated like slaves.
From: Adib S.KawarSent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:36 PMSubject: Boston Globe 4-14-5 Does Israel want Arab democracy ? by Jeff JacobyRE: Does Israel want Arab democracy?The answer is certainly NO, which also applies to the United States of America.Both the United States and Israel do not want to see genuine democracy prevailing in the Arab land, because if there is Arab democracy the Arab people will be free and the masters of their fate, they will be able to decide what is good for them, and not for their rulers and the external powers who move these rulers by remote control. If the Arab people are the masters of their fate they will be free to resist their subjugation to their autocratic rulers, Zionist and colonialist interests.Jeff Jacoby, is a racialist who thinks that only Israelis has the right to live even in the occupied land of others, meaning Arab blood and future has no value. It is alright for him to uproot the Palestinians from their land to be replaced by imported Zionist racialists. Jacoby wrote: "Sharon's retreat (Evacuating an occupied land!!!) will do nothing to encourage democracy. It will simply condemn a million Gaza Arabs to the permanent despotism of the Palestinian Authority." It is out of this world to read some body who thinks that subjugation means liberation and democracy!!! But don't be surprised this is Zionism!!!Adib S. KawarAn uprooted Palestinian ArabBeirut - LebanonTel. 00961 3 261422Does Israel want Arab democracy?
DURING THEIR press conference in Crawford, Texas, this week, President Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon referred several times to Palestinian democracy. Bush, for example, mentioned his ''vision of two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side." Sharon said the Palestinians should ''choose the path of democracy and law and order."
But there was little in their words or body language to suggest that this democracy talk was anything more than lip service. An Arab Palestine in which ordinary citizens could freely criticize their rulers? In which political power wasn't monopolized by terrorist groups? In which the government didn't stoke the fires of anti-Semitism in order to deflect attention from its own corruption? In which there was freedom of speech and conscience? In which the outcome of elections wasn't predetermined? No -- that sort of genuine and vibrant democracy seemed far removed from anything that Bush or Sharon was expecting, let alone demanding, from Mahmoud Abbas and the Palestinian Authority.In Sharon's case, this comes as no surprise. Like his predecessors dating back to Yitzhak Rabin, Sharon has never regarded the democratizing of Palestinian society as a priority. Quite the contrary. Believing that only an iron-fisted ruler could suppress terrorism and make peace, Israeli leaders have actually welcomed Palestinian autocracy. In a notorious comment early in the Oslo years, Rabin assured Israelis that Yasser Arafat would be able to crack down on terrorism since he, unlike Israeli authorities, wouldn't be hampered by a supreme court or human rights groups. The absence of Palestinian democracy and civil liberties, far from being seen as a root of terrorism, was hailed as a boon in fighting it.
But if Sharon has never believed Arab democracy is essential to peace and progress, the same can't be said about Bush. No contemporary political leader has championed freedom and self-government for the people of the Middle East more fervently. None has argued with more conviction that the key to ending terrorism and the fanaticism that spawns it is decent, democratic governance. None has proclaimed a more sweeping doctrine of liberation and human dignity. ''It is the policy of the United States," he avowed in his second inaugural address, ''to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world."
In recent months, the bubbling of democratic ferment has lifted hopes across the Middle East. In Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, Kuwait, even in Syria and Saudi Arabia, an ''Arab spring" is beginning to transform what has been till now the most reactionary region on earth. Sooner than anyone predicted, Bush's faith in democratic revolution has begun to bear fruit -- to seem not just idealistic, but realistic.
If that faith should have special relevance anywhere, it is in the Palestinian Authority. For it was with regard to the Palestinians that Bush first expressed the idea that diplomatic gains and international legitimacy must be linked to democratic reform. In June 2002, he declared that before there could be a Palestinian state, there would have to be ''a new and different Palestinian leadership . . . not compromised by terror." Palestinian society, he said, must become ''a practicing democracy based on tolerance and liberty."
But with no Israeli interest in promoting Palestinian reform, Bush's principled stand came to naught. Arafat was shunned, but Sharon embraced Arafat's longtime crony Abbas -- a PLO veteran deeply ''compromised by terror." Instead of making Palestinian progress on human rights and freedom the price of further Israeli concessions, Sharon announced that Israel would unilaterally withdraw from the Gaza Strip and expel the Jews living there. Sharon's retreat will do nothing to encourage democracy. It will simply condemn a million Gaza Arabs to the permanent despotism of the Palestininan Authority.
In Crawford, Bush loyally described Sharon's plan as ''courageous," but he must know that it is nothing of the sort. It is a blow to Israeli democracy no less than to Arab democracy, and a blow to the cause of Middle East freedom for which the United States is sacrificing so much.
For the first time in Israel's history, the United States is led by a president determined to see liberal democracy take root in the Arab world. For the first time, the Arab Middle East is alive with democratic possibility. Never has there been a better opportunity to transform Palestinian society from a dangerous, hate-filled dictatorship into a civilized, self-governing democracy. If Israel squanders this chance to nurture liberty and tolerance in its own back yard, it may never get another.
Jeff Jacoby's e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED].
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