Re: [IslamCity] RULING ON: 'MUSLIM COUNCIL OF BRITAIN' CAVES TO HOMOSEXUALITY

Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:15:14 -0700

Actually they would only be commiting treason and apostasy if they said it was alright for muslims to be homosexual.
 
Just becasue some one is homosexual it does not mean that you should treat them bad or treat hem less than human, they are still living breathing souls who have a place in this world, and while they can never be Muslim we can certainly enage in dialoue with them, maybe saving them from the hell fire by promoting Islam to them.
 
It is you in error to turn your back on people and say your only going to deal with Muslims as other wise it would be against Islam. Stop being ignorant and read our Qur'an and hadith. Its quite clear that Homosexual behaviour is disliked and that a Muslim can never be a homosexual, no where does it say that you should leave them alone to their fate and not try to help them.
 
 


[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bismillah Hir-Rahman Nir-Rahim
As-Salaamu' Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatu

This disgusting news regarding the Muslim Council in Britain is no surprise.  I declared them apostates a long time ago and this is just one more evidence of the fact that they are devils serving the satanic agenda against Islam and Muslims.

I, Aeisha Muhammad, as a servant of ALLAH and bearer of the rank of Shayhka Maulani, do hereby declare on this day before ALLAH, the Prophet Muhammad(sws), the Sahaba(blessings upon them), the saints and rightly guided shuyuk, the angels and all of Creation that:

1.  The position of the Quran and Sunnah is that homosexuality is haraam and that the apostated 'Sir Iqbal' and his Muslim Council of Britain is again in full breach of the Sharia.

2. That 'Sir Iqbal' and the Muslim Council of Britain have incurred upon themselves the guilty verdict on charges of treason and apostasy both of which carry the sentence of death.  Demand is hereby made that all dialog with the homosexuals be terminated immediately or that 'Sir Iqbal' and his demonic organization be prepared to face the consequences and penalties applicable under Islamic Sharia.

Should 'Sir Iqbal' and the Muslim Council of Britain  continue to engage in dialog with the homosexuals and step foot outside of England onto sovereign Muslim soil the sentence stands and should be carried out immediately. 

3. I call on all Muslims in Britain to turn their back on this nest of devils operating as the Muslim Council of Britain.  No Muslim should give them another GBP nor should any Muslim associate with any of its demonic members.  Wherever they are seen they must be vehemently denounced.  We cannot control what individual persons do in secret but we can most certainly stop the Deen of Islam from being corrupted and undermined by devils posing as Muslims seeking to destroy the foundations of our religion, its principles and our values. 

4.  I caution the West against following the footsteps of Bush's eunuch Blair and not encourage the State manipulated Islamic organizations in their nations to follow the step taken by the Muslim Council of Britain.  Islam will not be undermined by such despicable tactics.

5.  I caution the psuedo-Islamic organizations to not cross the boundaries for surely there will be accountability.

ALLAHU AKBAR ! ALLAHU AKBAR! ALLAHU AKBAR!

Fi AmmanALLAH
from the servant of ALLAH
Shayhka Maulani Aeisha Muhammad


[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Assalamu aleikum.

Please note that 2 articles follow:

*Muslim Council gay rights u-turn "welcomed"
*Muslim group reveals plan for gay consensus

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Muslim Council gay rights u-turn "welcomed"
Marc Shoffman
PinkNews
11-Apr-06
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-1116.html

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The group expressed hope that Sir Iqbal would be part of constructive dialogue
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/images/mcb.jpg
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Revelations that the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB)has agreed to combat homophobia in the Muslim
community have been "warmly welcomed" by OutRage!, the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender group.

MCB policy advisor, Muhammed Aziz, revealed a
five-year plan against homophobia in an interview with PinkNews.co.uk last week.

"This u-turn is a positive, hopeful sign that the gay and Muslim communities can work together to challenge the twin evils of homophobia and Islamophobia," said Aaron Saeed, OutRage!'s Muslim Affairs spokesperson.

"The MCB’s policy shift follows discreet contact by
gay rights groups OutRage! and Stonewall. It comes
three months after MCB leader, Sir Iqbal Sacranie, was heavily criticised for anti-gay remarks on the BBC's PM programme," said Mr Saeed

It is understood that the Department of Trade &
Industry (DTI) will facilitate dialogue between the
MCB and the gay community.

"This change of heart is fantastic. The MCB's past
opposition to gay human rights has been very hurtful. We were saddened to see the MCB campaigning to retain the notorious Section 28, and distressed by its attacks on same-sex parents and civil partnerships. We hope the MCB's
support for homophobic discrimination is now a thing of the past and that we can move forward together," said Mr Saeed.

Peter Tatchell of OutRage! echoed Mr Saeed’s welcome: "We salute Mr Aziz and the MCB for their commitment to tackle homophobia and establish dialogue with the gay community. We look forward to constructive engagement with the MCB."

The MCB’s move was also praised by Brett Lock,
OutRage!'s campaign organiser: "In February, a gay
Muslim asylum seeker from Sudan, Nahi Mudwai,
committed suicide by jumping into the Thames after his family's homophobia drove him to despair. Thousands of young gay people from religious families, not only Muslim, of course, experience rejection and depression because of faith-inspired homophobia.

"We applauded the MCB for its decision to combat
anti-gay attitudes," said Mr Lock.

Commenting on the homophobic comments of MCB leader, Sir Iqbal Sacranie, made earlier this year on the BBC, Mr Lock added: "Sir Iqbal’s condemnation of gay people as socially destructive spreaders of disease was deeply offensive. "We hope Sir Iqbal will be part of this dialogue and that he will signal the resolve of the entire MCB leadership to join the fight homophobia.

"OutRage! reaffirms its commitment to challenge racism and Islamophobia. We oppose all forms of hatred and discrimination," said Mr Lock.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-1116.html


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Muslim group reveals plan for gay consensus
Marc Shoffman
PinkNews
10-Apr-06
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-1097.html

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photo:
Sir Iqbal was accused of homophobia in January after
comments on Radio 4
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/images/mcb.jpg
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PinkNews.co.uk has been told of a five year plan to
combat homophobia in the British Muslim community.

Muhammed Aziz, policy advisor to the Muslim Council of
Britain (MCB), told PinkNews.co.uk that significant
progress is expected following internal discussions
after a productive All Party Parliamentary Group
meeting earlier this year, which included the Muslim organisation and gay charity Stonewall.

Mr Aziz revealed plans to look at homophobia in the
Muslim community and Islamophobia in the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community in reaction to controversial comments by MCB leader Sir Iqbal
Sacranie on homosexuality.

It is hoped that the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) will help conduct the project, a DTI spokesman confirmed discussions have taken place.

This marks a shift from previous years where there has been little dialogue between the MCB and gay groups, Mr Aziz said: “We have brought about a lot of change from five years ago when the MCB were behind issues such as section 28, and against gay adoption.

“The first part of the strategy was to tell MCB if you have nothing positive to say keep your mouth shut, most of the negative statements now date back to 1999.”

Alan Wardle. Stonewall’s director of Parliamentary and Public Affairs, confirmed there has been some contact with the MCB but said any specific projects are in the early stages, he said “It is something we may look into for the future.”

Stonewall chief executive Ben Summerskill calmed the rumours, “We have been in meetings with a range of faith groups, there is nothing formal at the moment.”

The potential partnerships were first fostered at a
meeting of the Equality and Diversity Forum on January 18, attended by Mr Aziz, and Mr Wardle, where both agreed their should be further discussions and debate between the communities.

This sentiment was reinforced at the January 31
meeting of the All Party Parliamentary Group on
Equalities.

Other gay rights groups including Outrage are offended that they have been excluded from plans, but Mr Aziz said the issues had to be treated sensitively, “They may be uncomfortable about individual personalities, Stonewall are seen as a safe pair of hands.”

Outrage’s Peter Tatchell said: “How does Muhammed Aziz square this commitment to fight homophobia with Sir Iqbal Sacranie’s comments that gay people are immoral, harmful and diseased. If the leader of the MCB holds these homophobic views how can we take seriously the MCB’s claimed commitment to fighting homophobia.

“The MCB supports legal discrimination against
lesbians and gays, It has opposed every gay equality reform of the last decade.

“These actions do not look like the actions of an
organisation committed to fighting homophobia.”

The MCB worked with gay groups such as the Lesbian and Gay Coalition Against Racism at last month’s Unite Against Conference. Secretary, Inayat Bunglawala said at the time, “British Muslims welcome working with everyone including members of the Lesbian and Gay community against a common enemy, fascism.”

Mr Tatchell said: “Outrage and other gay groups have been lobbying the MCB for a long time, it’s great that the MCB is now willing to reciprocate cooperation with the LGBT community.”

The next step according to Mr Aziz is to get the DTI to take the issues seriously, “We are looking to create productive policies rather than news and
publicity.”

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-1097.html

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