I think what PTA and PTCL are doing to us is all we deserve. PTCL
came in the IP business, and we all rushed to get bandwidth from them,
where as no body ventured to make or support a private company selling IP
bandwidth. Several proposals and several times were placed before ISPAK to
make a consortium, and to distribute bandwidth among ourselves, but no one
came forward.
In Pakistan, we business people have a tendancy to make our own Mosques,
instead of sharing. We all are willing to risk our business by buying
bandwidth from the faulty STM-1, but no one is willing to support
any private concern or even make a consortium.
Now as we all have strengthened PTCL's IP network and business model, PTCL
will move forward to take our corporate and individual clients from us.
PTCL will make the PIE and we all will be forced to take bandwidth
from it, and live with what ever they do in terms of filtering etc.,
because no one thought and made a private NAP, and if some one did think,
we never supported him, but we supported our Big Brother PTCL, and now we
all will face the consequences.
We ourselves have given the power to PTCL to rule us and ruin us.
Regards,
Nasir.
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Naeem Haq wrote:
> Dear All ,
>
> I really dont know why PTA makes rules which are downright against the
> national interest . I recall several meetings / presensations on this topic
> and as far as I am concerned , PTA should encourage inter-ISP links and not
> discourage them . Please kinldy note that in my mind the "National Interest"
> is more supreme than PTA making money from ISPs . Its a shame that , unlike
> India we have been bestowed with a body which not only ignores the national
> interest but is more interested in making money and retarding the growth of
> the Internet Industry . I think its time that someone shoule make an effort
> to make this understand to PTA that Private Peering is in Pakistan's favour
> and should be encouraged . Not only does peering exchange local information
> locally ( thereby saving foreign exchange ) but also creates a meshed
> network which is more fault resilient .
>
> Secondly , PTCL's PIE is a name change for the NAP .... mind you NAP was
> shelved by the Minister but PTCL in the garb of delivery mechanism for STM-1
> has been able to justify the PIE . All I can say here is that , there is no
> level playing field in this country ( despite all claims ) and PTCL will
> continue to bully us all and try to take our livelihoods away .Over the last
> year or so , I have lost all of my corporate ( router port ) clients to PTCL
> due to predatory policies , but PTA has not done anything . I wonder if
> someone has done a study of models used in other countries , for example in
> Israel to protect the ISPs the PTT cannot sell direct via dialup and can
> only sell to ISPs / DNOPs . NO effort has been made here to actually come up
> with a model which will survive these troubled times . Please note that PTA
> is supposed to regulate the market in a manner that the consumer interest
> and the investor interest is protected .... but PTA is carelessly issuing
> licences , without planning anything ; the results are inevitable a handful
> may survive , the rest will be wiped off . I think its time for PTA to
> wakeup from this deep slumber and start working for the purpose they were
> established .
>
> Recent rumors have suggested that PTA is contemplating issuing voice
> licenses for $100M+.. good luck as in the post deregulated period PTA will
> surely be endorcing monopolies ( something which is definitely against the
> consumer interest ) .
>
> All I can say is it time to wake up .
>
> Naeem Haq
> NEXLINX
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jamal Nasir Khan
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:20 AM
> To: Wasim Tauqir
> Cc: SBHUTTA; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ISPAK: Re: Peering to Exchange Local Emails Among ISPs
>
>
> Wasim sb:
> Peering is an interconnect to route traffic meant for interconnected
> parties. I agree with Bhutta sb that the demand raised by you can be
> investigated from the point of view of knowledge base from the Web. Details
> regarding peering are available on Web.
>
> Bhutta sb,
>
> As far as I know there is no regulatry issue in the peering arrangement
> and it is only meant to efficiently manage the traffic by ISPs without
> puting unnecessary load on International circuits. I dont know why did you
> applied in the first case to PTA and secondly if there is a reglatory issue
> then how come PTCL was able to implement the project of PIE.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jamal
>
>
> SBHUTTA wrote:
>
> Mr.Wasim Tauqir,Director S&S PTA. Dear Sir, It is very simple demand
> that connectivity through DXXamong ISPs be allowed if ISPsalready have
> international bandwidth from PTCL. Details demanded by are not concerned.
> However your mail is being is being forwarded to ChairmanTechnical Committee
> of ISPAK Mr.Jamal Nasir Khan for more information. Best regards. Sanaullah
> Bhutta,President ISPAK.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wasim Tauqir
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:12 AM
> Subject: Fw: Peering to Exchange Local Emails Among ISPs
> original message forwarded owing to email address error.WT.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wasim Tauqir
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sunday, September
> 02, 2001 9:07 PMSubject: Peering to Exchange Local Emails Among ISPs
> In order to understand the above subject clearly, please provide a
> detailed network plan i.e. network connectivity and network access plan and
> routing. Also indicate end-to-end call connection and routing in the form of
> a detailed logical/ functional block diagram highlighting the differences in
> the current configuration versus the desired one.
> Best regards.
>
> Wasim Tauqir,
>
> Dir S&S, PTA
>
>
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