This policy was drafted in agreement with PTCL and their staff. There are no two
points. It now only requires to be made official.

Regards,

Jamal

salman ansari wrote:

> Has anyone matched the policy issued by the PTCL with what you guys are
> debating?
> Salman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Naeem Haq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:40 PM
> To: Jamal Nasir Khan; A.R. Nasir Qureshi
> Cc: ISPAK; Salman Ansari
> Subject: RE: ISPAK: Peering Policy
>
> Jamal ,
>
> I agree with you on all points but would like to add a couple of points .
>
> a) Private Peering arrangements can be of different nature and thus
> sometimes static
> routing gives additional control . We should not argue on this point and
> make the policy
> flexible enough to accomodate most situations .
>
> b) Peering and Media
>
> PTCL must allow the use of Non-Exchange pairs for local exchange peering ;
> this will
> make the peering more meshed , economical and not to mention provide an
> alternative to
> PTCL DXX . Additonally , the policy should be clear on use of private media
> .
>
> Naeem Haq
> NEXLINX
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jamal Nasir Khan
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:44 AM
> To: A.R. Nasir Qureshi
> Cc: ISPAK; Salman Ansari
> Subject: Re: ISPAK: Peering Policy
>
> Nasir,
>
> Please call me so that I can explain you on both points.
>
> My numbers are 5871864 & 0320-4236688
>
> Regards,
>
> Jamal
>
> "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" wrote:
>
> > I have two points.
> >
> > You mentioned Static Routing. I strongly oppose use of any static routes
> > in any peering arrangment.
> >
> > Secondly, I do not see any reason for PTCL to have two AS numbers. One AS
> > can work with any type pf peers, and technically speaking in a peering
> > arrangement, there is no difference between International Peers or
> > National Peers. Managing two AS's will only complicate matters. Cisco BGP
> > implementation by default does not allow use of two AS numbers.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Nasir.
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Jamal Nasir Khan wrote:
> >
> > > Following is the draft of the Peering Policy required to be reviewed,
> > > finalized and issued by MoST/ PTCL. Please send your comments,
> > > suggestions if any by tomorrow morning in order to finalize the subject.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jamal
> > >
> > >
> > > Peering Policy
> > >
> > >
> > >    * Peering is the arrangement of traffic and routing information
> > >      exchanged between Internet Service Providers.
> > >    *
> > >    * Peers are Internet Service Providers and Data Network Operators who
> > >      hold a valid license.
> > >    *
> > >    * Peering Point is a place where the routing entries and the traffic
> > >      is exchanged.
> > >    *
> > >
> > > Types of Peering
> > >
> > > *Public Peering
> > >
> > > Public Peering is an arrangement where ISPs are connected to a central
> > > point and exchange Internet traffic and routing information according to
> > > a standard and general policy. Any consortium of ISPs can form a public
> > > peering point. The policy and SOP related to operate Public Peering
> > > Point must be a public document. Each Public peering exchange may have
> > > independent set of policy and procedures.
> > >
> > > *Private Peering
> > >
> > > Private Peering is an arrangement where two ISPs are connected to each
> > > other and exchange Internet traffic and routing information according to
> > > their own defined and agreed policies.
> > >
> > > *Interconnect
> > >
> > > All Public Peering points will be required to interconnect with each
> > > other. The circuit required for Interconnect will be based on 50% split
> > > charges borne by the two public peering point operating companies or
> > > consortium. Routing information of the interconnected public peering
> > > points will be exchanged.
> > >
> > > Role of PTCL:
> > >
> > >    *
> > >    * PTCL will arrange public peering for all circuits, which are
> > >      connected to Pakistan Internet Exchange.
> > >    * All Customers who will have the full circuit IP based International
> > >      circuit from PTCL will have the public peering facility available
> > >      free of cost through that circuit.
> > >    * PTCL will provision a separate circuit based on separate tariff for
> > >      the connectivity to the Public Peering Point based on PIE. This
> > >      circuit will enable the customer to exchange traffic only on the
> > >      National IP backbone with the participating ISP members on the PIE.
> > >      Their will only be a single tariff will be based on the port speed:
> > >    *
> > >         o Local Link bandwidth   ( DXX Charges Recurring )
> > >         o Hardware Cost    ( One Time )
> > >         o Inter-city Link charges    ( Recurring Fractional Charge )
> > >         o Operation & Maintenance Cost  ( Recurring )
> > >    *
> > >    * PTCL will provide the leased circuit / media based on the
> > >      applicable / available tariff to any two ISPs who wants to peer
> > >      with each other privately. ( Only DXX charges applicable ).
> > >    * The link between the two ISPs can be provisioned with the help of a
> > >      radio link provided by DNOP.
> > >    * PTCL will provide the leased circuit / media based on the
> > >      applicable / available tariff to any ISP / DNOP who wants to peer
> > >      with some other Public Peering Point not operated by PTCL.
> > >    * Any other operating public peering point can connect to any ISP /
> > >      DNOP through radio link as well provided by DNOP.
> > >    * PTCL will arrange interconnection between all Public Peering Point
> > >      based on available media. The interconnection charges will only be
> > >      based on applicable / available tariff of the standard leased
> > >      circuits.
> > >    * PTCL will exchange traffic with member Peer ISPs and International
> > >      Bandwidth customers with the help of Static Routing and BGP.
> > >    * PTCL will have two separate Autonomous Systems Numbers to decipher
> > >      between the International Link Customers who will be acting as
> > >      transit peers and the national peer members.
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------- ISPAK --------------------------
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> > ISPs and ESPs of Pakistan and select media representatives.
> > -------------- http://ispak.net.pk -----------------------
>
> ------------------------- ISPAK --------------------------
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> ISPs and ESPs of Pakistan and select media representatives.
> -------------- http://ispak.net.pk -----------------------
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