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I believe you should choose your words a little more carefully; inflammatory
verbiage only requires a spark to ignite a flamewar...
If your talking about configuring ACLs on a router, or writing PERL scripts to
monitor audit logs, you would be correct. But, I disagree if you mean
instituting and managing an effective Information Security Program for a large
corporation. Although you may "feel" omnisicent as root on your corporate
firewall; you won't get paid or get new goodies to play with without a dedicated
security professional managing the Information Security department and budget.
Gary Dentremont, CISSP
Information Security Officer
Towers Perrin
Jason Axley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 01/10/2000 04:43:54 PM
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>From my brief look at the SANS certification track, it is actually
technically-oriented whereas CISSP can be obtained by someone who doesn't
know a thing about actually implementing security.
-Jason
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> the SANS SNAP courses are new, and they do not have the recognition as the
> CISSP does. SANS SNAP courses are still pretty much in the infancy
> development, some courses are much mature than the others. One approach
> is to sign up for every single conference out there, become a conference
> roadie if you will. Another approach is become intimate with the Sendmail
> book 2nd ed. and everything else will fall into place :).. Tongue in
> cheek.. :)
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> /mark
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> Hi,
>
> Another site which is bringing a security training program online is the
> SANS organization.
> Their SNAP program is looking very good, although it is still new there
> has
> been approval given
> by many security professionals. You can get further information at their
> web
> site http://www.sans.org
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>
> Jim Boxmeyer
> Senior Engineer
> ONCTek LLC
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> 908-595-2159
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> >Hi Julie,
> >
> > The only test I have found that provides some security knowledge
> >testing is the CISSP exam for information security professionals.
> >
> >The web site with test information is located at the following:
> >http://www.isc2.org. ISC^2 is a independent consortium that does the
> >testing. This is a ~258 question test that deals with everything from
> VMS
> >security to encryption.
> >
> >
> >Matthew F. Caldwell, CISSP - Senior Consultant
> >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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> >On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Julie Williams wrote:
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> >> I apologize if this email is being sent out of the realm of this
> listserv,
> >> but I am sorta lost as to where it would be appropriately sent..
> >> I am trying to find out how commercial business test their experts.
> >> 1. Are they tested?
> >> 2. How are they tested?
> >> 3. As a supervisor in Information Assurance/Security/Vulnerabilities,
> how
> >> do you OBJECTIVELY test the people that are supposed to know what they
> are
> >> doing.
> >>
> >> Why test, I need to know where I am at, Is their a standard level of
> >> knowledge for this stuff???
> >> Any Help would be greatly benefical
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