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another interesting article that is more accurate:
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I think this is media whoring in it's worst form making a dramatic statement
such as "NIDS is dead" in order to achieve publicity - by replying I guess
I'm as guilty  :o)

Any true security professional realises that IDS, firewalls etc are not a
security panacea, we know that they have their faults but at least they are
a step in the right direction, combining all the tools together, will go a
long way to fill the gaps highlighted by Stuart and Joel by that I mean
firewalls, Host IDS, Network IDS, personal firewalls, file integrity
checkers etc.  As for switched networks do firms with a security presence
buy switches incapable of port mirroring, there are also shomiti taps that
can go some way to counter the problems with switching

Most scary is that the article may be read by unknowing individuals looking
to embark on the road to securing their networks

Maybe Joel and Stuart are about to release another book about hacking and
need the publicity, surely with their experience they realise they are
talking from orifices other than their mouths

Deep Breath
Andy
http://www.networkintrusion.co.uk
Talisker's Network Security Tools List
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> Just in case you all haven't heard the latest. Apparently we can all pack
> up our bags and break down our NIDS because it doesn't work anymore. I had
> no idea my job was useless :-)
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>  Here's the link to this fine article...
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> http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/00/12/11/001211opswatch.xml
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