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So why the media-hype advisory?

1.)     X-Force did not create SubSeven
2.)     X-Force did not discover SubSeven
3.)     Should advisories from so-called research groups not contain new
discoveries and new research?

What next?  Is the X-Force going to release an advisory on every script
kiddie tool out there?  Oh wait, I just saw the one on STICK so I guess so.

Why not do something new and original?

If I wanted the news, I would surf over to SecurityFocus.com.




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> Subject: RE: Subseven 2.2 Release
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> There was, however, a new release with new functionality.  The description
> of that new functionality is the apparent point of the new alert.  But the
> new functionality does not obviate the SubSeven 2.x detect in RealSecure.
>
> Jim Lindley
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> That is exactly my point.  There is no new vulnerability yet there was an
> X-Force alert on it.
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> > Lindley, Jim (ISSAtlanta)
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> > Subject: RE: Subseven 2.2 Release
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> > What new vulnerability?  SubSeven 2.2 detection has been in
> > RealSecure since
> > June 2000.
> >
> >
> > James R Lindley
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> > Subject: RE: Subseven 2.2 Release
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> > SubSeven is a program that is very similar to Back Orffice or Netbus.
> >
> > As far as its relationship to ISS, there isn't one except for the
> > fact that
> > X-Force specializes in releasing alerts on the obvious and seems
> > to have an
> > issue finding new vulnerabilities to report.  Its really too
> bad, as they
> > used to be a respected research organization.
> >
> >
> >
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> > Subject: Re: Subseven 2.2 Release
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> >
> > What is  Subseven 2.2 ?  and what is your relationship to ISS?
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> >
> > Mike Peterson wrote:
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> > > FYI - SubSeven 2.2 has been released.
> > >
> > > http://www.tlsecurity.net/backdoor/Subseven.2.2.html
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