If you have met with success in implementing a solution using OPSEC between
ISS Network Sensor and Checkpoint NG, why have you not presented this as a
written solution to Checkpoint or ISS ?  Under the circumstances that so
many individuals have been seeking for a working solution and that ISS and
Checkpoint are both aware of the "non-working" issues of this particular
environment, it would almost be imperative or compulsary that an individual
would wish to share this information with the public community as well as
the vendors.  Perhaps it would grace your day with a overwhelming sense of
philanthropy to enlighten the members of this mailing list by providing
details about what exactly you did, how and what in this following quoted
line ??

"Nota: Long time ago, I have personnaly reconfigure Firewall NG with
RealSecure 6.x on customer site with any trouble. "

Thanks and any disclosure would be greatly appreciated by the general public

-----Original Message-----
From: Falck, Axel (ISS Paris) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 5:35 AM
To: Jeroen Veeren; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Slighter, Tim; Brooks, Darrell W.; Nelson
Fernando Aranzazu
Subject: RE: [ISSForum] RE: Configuring RealSecure to use OPSEC with
FireW all-1



Jeroen,

The best way now, is to contact the ISS technical support at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and probably Check Point support to investigate the issue

I cannot do tech support on the ISSforum, which is not really the best way
to do that. We can sharing our ideas to try to solve your issue.

Hope this helps

Nota: Long time ago, I have personnaly reconfigure Firewall NG with
RealSecure 6.x on customer site with any trouble. 


Regards

Axel FALCK


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Jeroen Veeren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoy� : lundi 7 octobre 2002 10:37
� : Falck, Axel (ISS Paris); [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc : '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Slighter, Tim'; Brooks, Darrell W.; Nelson
Fernando Aranzazu
Objet : RE: [ISSForum] RE: Configuring RealSecure to use OPSEC with
FireW all-1


Axel,

I think the big question is here:
Do you have a working solution out there or not?
Then we simply get things to buisiness;
1. If you have it working, please share your config so we can duplicate it.
2. If you don't get it to work, please contact checkpoint (don't let your
customers do that!) and mail the list as soon as there is a solution.

I sadly have to admit I share kevin's conclusions about just settling for
the kills instead of the -IMHO- much more powerfull/desirable OPSEC
mechanism.

On a site note: Can I start asking about my options when I implement my
second fw management server for redundancy.
I don't see any options in the response settings, but I guess if it is not
working wih one management server, it'll certainly be a dead end with two
management servers...:o)

Cheers,
Jeroen.
   


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Slighter, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Verzonden: vrijdag 4 oktober 2002 18:02
Aan: 'Falck, Axel (ISS Paris)'; Brooks, Darrell W.; Nelson Fernando
Aranzazu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: RE: [ISSForum] RE: Configuring RealSecure to use OPSEC with FireW
all-1


Aside from your recommendations.  Did you meet with any success getting the
network sensor to successfully generate an OPSEC command to the NG firewall
?

We setup the entire design using the -ssl to ensure the OPSEC channel was
being used as "Authenticated" and NOT "Authenticated with encryption".
Actually, we tried it every possible way following word for word every step
and instruction from all documents from Checkpoint and ISS and Phoneboy and
the OPSEC still does NOT work.  If you have been able to get this to work
successfully and witnessing actual OPSEC events in the logs as well as
actual OPSEC changes to the rules in the firewall, please share this
information with the mailing list.  Thank you

-----Original Message-----
From: Falck, Axel (ISS Paris) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:02 AM
To: Brooks, Darrell W.; Nelson Fernando Aranzazu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ISSForum] RE: Configuring RealSecure to use OPSEC with FireWall-1



Did you tried http://www.phoneboy.com

And so, use the -ssl option into your fwopsec putkey command on NG. Be aware
that in any case the fwopsec putkey commanbd MUST be done in FIRST on Check
Point, and after on RealSecure


Hope this helps

Axel FALCK


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Brooks, Darrell W. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoy� : jeudi 3 octobre 2002 23:42
� : Falck, Axel (ISS Paris); 'Nelson Fernando Aranzazu'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Objet : RE: Configuring RealSecure to use OPSEC with FireWall-1


I have had the same issue, and Checkpoint is no help. The doc for this from
the ISS page has not been very helpful either. I have had to issue the
command from my management server to the gateway in this order:

Fw sam -v -I src <IP Address>

Modifying the fwopsec.conf file worked well on 4.1 but not on NG. 

Two calls to ISS support yielded little help. I hope someone has a real fix
for this...it's a feature I really miss now that we have upgraded to NG.

Thanks,
 
 
Darrell
 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 12:19 PM
To: Nelson Fernando Aranzazu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Configuring RealSecure to use OPSEC with FireWall-1


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Hello,

if the command fw sam -i src "any_ip_address" -t60 doesn't works, the issue
is from CheckPoint software. This command is very usefull to check  the
OPSEC implementation on FW.

it does works event no RealSecure Installed

Hope this Helps

Axel FALCK


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Nelson Fernando Aranzazu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoy� : mardi 1 octobre 2002 16:10
� : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Configuring RealSecure to use OPSEC with FireWall-1


Hello,

 

I'm trying to implement OPSEC between Network Sensor 6.5 and CheckPoint
Firewall-1 NG FP2 (installed with backward compatibility) but it doesn't
work.

 

I have already configured the "fwopsec.conf" file in the firewall, applied
the keys and configured the network sensor to use OPSEC. But when I'm trying
to test the SAM response executing "fw sam -t 60  -i  any_ip_address" the
firewall shows the follow message:    "sam: Unexpected end of session. It is
possible that the SAM request for 'Inhibit src ip any_ip_address on All' was
not enforced."

 

Had anybody had this kind of situation?

 

Thanks.


________________________
Nelson Fernando Aranzazu
Administrador LAN-WAN
Equant - Data Center
Bogot�, Colombia.






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