The setup that I chose when faced with almost this EXACT layout was, put
a switch between FW and Router. Mirror router port, put IDS in stealth
mode on that port. Since you are mirroring the router port you can see
everything that comes and goes on the Internet. Later on I will be
placing another sensor in the DMZ, with a mirrored port for the FW. You
can then tune to look at things originating from the DMZ or some such.

Erick Kinnee
Network Engineer
City of Fort Worth, Texas
Desk 817.871.6839
Cell 817.929.0995

-----Original Message-----
From: Rowton, Mitchell [mailto:Mitchell.Rowton@;mail.drms.dla.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:51 AM
To: 'as dsf'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ISSForum] Basic IDS Deployment Questions

a bit of input for one part of your question...

If you mirror every port in the switch then you can monitor trafic to
and
from internal machines, if you only mirror the firewall port then you
will
only monitor the traffic leaving the network (to its default GW)

-----Original Message-----
From: as dsf [mailto:xpidissii@;yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ISSForum] Basic IDS Deployment Questions


It happens that I am currently discussing a
implementation where I have a basic deployment of
Checkpoint Fw-1:

           
                     (Internet)
                          +
                        Router
                          + 
                     Firewall
                          + 
                + - - - - +- - - - -+
                +                   +
(TrustedZone-Switch)          (DMZ-Switch)




There's a firewall interface in every zone , that's in
every switch dedicated to each security zone.Each of
the switches is a Gigabit switch, with servers
connected to them with gigabit nics.IDS implementation
involves configuring an IDS Network Sensor in every
zone (Tz,Dmz,Public Zone)Questions:1.Mirroring:Is it
enough to mirror Firewall Interface on Network Sensor
for each zone or all of the ports in a given
switch.For instance, for DMZ switch with 10 servers
connected to it, should I mirror only the firewall
interface to DMZ-network sensor or should I mirror all
the 10 ports to it?Obviously , every server has one of
the firewall interface as default gateway.2.What if
set up network sensor with a 100FullDuplex interface,
is there any great chance nbetwork sensor drop a huge
amount of packets? Has anyone estimated this loss of
capture by network sensor?JaimeO.

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