Hi.

As far as I am aware, you should ideally have both. You haven't given much
detail (in a public forum that's generally a good idea) so I may be guessing
on a few points:

Sanctum (http://www.sanctuminc.com/) should be used to protect the web
application by enforcing the business logic. This will catch all 10 types of
web perversion. You should also protect the SQL with a server sensor to
protect it from the internal network and other hosts that could be
compromised *besides* the web application.

For example, Sanctum will provide outstanding protection for you web
application for users coming in through expected channels. If the SQL and
httpd servers are on the same segment as an E-Mail server, Sanctum cannot
protect the e-mail server from attack (not part of the functionality). If
this e-mail (or any other server / host) gets compromised, they could have
free rein over that network even though you think you have designed security
into the solution. 

Just a few points:

1. I'm a post-sales techie. I'm used to fixing problems, not designing
solutions. Very important difference in psychology.
2. I work for a European Distie for both Sanctum and ISS and so have a
vested interest. 
3. Check out my comments with your normal reseller / consultant. Don't
accept them without independent verification.
4. #include <disclaimer.h>
5. Don't just concentrate on one avenue of attack. When designing a security
solution remember that the attacks / perversion attempts can come in any
size, shape or source (internal, external, wireless, bug exploit, etc).
6. A lot of the above depends on other parts of your infrastructure that are
not mentioned. Some or all of the above could be irrelevant but I hope it
gives you an idea of my way of thinking. 

Hope this helps and is relevant for you. 

Kind Regards,

Jon Paine. Technical Lead.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Didea, Gheorghe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 05 December 2002 12:54
> To: Issforum (E-mail)
> Subject: [ISSForum] Web server protection vs Sanctum AppShield
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I want to protect a SQL application and I want to know if I 
> can do this
> using Web server protection from Server Sensor. I don't want 
> to protect just
> against IIS attacks but also against authenticated connection 
> attack. For
> example if the application is sending back a response with 77 
> in header and
> the client is sending back a response modifying this header 
> and sending 78 I
> want to block this.
> I ask you this because I want to know if I can do this with 
> ISS or I need to
> buy an applicative IDS like AppShield
> 
> Thanks
> George
> 
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