I have seen this several times as well.  Robert, you stated, "Therefore, the
coalescer has logic that triggers when the same event comes in from more
than 16 sources -- then changes the source to 0.0.0.0."  Is this really an
attack or could it also be normal activity on certain networks?  Could you
give an example of the "same event comes in from more than 16 sources" to
explain?  thanks in advance.

-Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Graham, Robert (ISS Atlanta) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:17 PM
To: CHO; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ISSForum] source 0.0.0.0


The IP address "0.0.0.0" means that "we are unsure of the exact source"; it
doesn't mean that the address 0.0.0.0 was actually seen on the wire.

The biggest source of this is from the "coalescer" on the sensor. The basic
purpose of the coalescer is to combine identical events in to a single event
with a "repeat-count". However, if somebody spoofs their IP address and
floods the sensor, then such logic wouldn't successfully coalesce events,
which would then fill up your database. Therefore, the coalescer has logic
that triggers when the same event comes in from more than 16 sources -- then
changes the source to 0.0.0.0. In practice, this has made a major difference
in survivability of the sensor vs. worms  and DDoS attacks, though it didn't
work as well for Slammer as we hoped (something we are fixing in the next
major XPU).




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of CHO
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:42 AM
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Subject: [ISSForum] source 0.0.0.0


I am getting a lot of events comming from IP-Adress 0.0.0.0
Various events....
What can that be ? Is somebody in  here, try to crack the hell out of our
net??? or is it just normal??
How can it appear in normal traffic?


CHO-Chief Hacking Officer

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