We will be doing the same thing, so I am very interested in your experience.
And I will provide our experience to all.

MRM

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Kaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:54 AM
To: Chris Norris/AMIG
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ISSForum] Inline Appliance and Switch Configuration


Chris,

I wrestled with this question about a year ago while working with G 
appliances and here's my take on it. Though I have not played with 
uplinkfast or backbonefast, I recommended enabling portfast on those ports 
connected to the G. Here's my reasoning (and it's been a while since I've 
done this, so anyone feel free to correct me :)

Spannning tree's main purpose is to avoid switching loops within your 
network. Now, if you take a fully functioning network with IPS working and 
you don't have switching loops, then you just need to worry about when 
link-state goes down on the G for that split second. If there are no loops 
created during that period of time, you can bring the G back up w/o waiting 
through the STP learning period and have no problems. Since the period of 
time that the link-state is actually down is fairly small (less than a 
second IIRC), you're betting that no one will create a switching loop on 
another part of your network during that time.

Since connectivity after a G power loss was a paramount concern, I 
recommended using portfast to bring those switch ports up as fast as 
possible. Your environment may have different requirements, so as usual 
YMMV.

-Matt
--
Matt Kaar, CISSP
Carnegie Mellon University
Information Networking Institute
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

On 6/24/05, Chris Norris/AMIG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Just curious to know how others are handling the physical install of 
> Inline
> IDP devices. We are looking to move our Proventia G to inline mode as it
> wasn't installed this way originally.
> 
> I was told that in "acts just like a cable" and would not be a problem in
> passing traffic in the event of a power failure on the device. That's not
> exactly true. With no power it passes traffic "like a cable" but when 
> power
> is present the IDP establishes link-state with the 2 switches it's
> connected to. When power is lost so is link-state with the switches which
> can invoke a spanning-tree change.
> 
> This is what happened during our test. It's too bad that the device is not
> truly "passive" from a link-state perspective so that it would allow the
> switches to "see" each other through the IDP, but it is what it is.
> 
> So my suggestion to our network team is to look at options such as
> "uplinkfast" or "backbonefast" since they are using Cisco switches. I
> suppose they could use "portfast" on the IDP ports but I have always
> frowned on "portfast" (which disables Spanning-Tree learning mode) on
> anything but end user ports.
> 
> What are other people doing?
> 
> Regards,
> Chris Norris CISSP
> American Modern Insurance Companies
> Sr. Security Engineer
> IS Risk and Security Management
> 
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