The Ping_Sweep algorithm has not changed recently. So, the change in
behavior would not be from a recently introduced false positive in the
algorithm. In addition, it sounds like the event is legitimate. I
recommend using event filters to disable Ping_Sweep events from your
Whats Up server.

The Ping_Sweep algorithm recognizes ping sweeps using a two stage
algorithm for efficiency. The first stage is an efficient statistical
algorithm that allows the IDS to use very few resources to monitor large
numbers of network devices. This first stage is somewhat lossy (in much
the same a JPEG image is lossy). Any potential intruders identified by
the first stage are passed to the second stage in which a more detailed
and expensive deterministic analysis is performed. My guess is that
prior to 2 months ago, the level of activity that your Whats Up server
generated was just under the threshold for the first stage of the
algorithm. About 2 months ago, either you added another remote server to
monitor or some other seemingly minor changed occurred (a change in the
IP address of a remote server for instance) that change the results
within the statistical first stage enough to exceed its thresholds.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hee Kiong
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 4:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ISSForum] Ping Sweep


Hi,

I have a server running whatsup application that monitors various 
servers at a remote site by using ICMP ping. The whatsup server will 
poll those servers every minute. I have an IDS installed at the remote 
site to monitor the incoming and outgoing traffics. The whatsup server 
has been running for about 1 1/2 years and only recently (2 months ago) 
I saw the ping sweep events showed at the remote IDS. The event showed 
me that the source IP is from the whatsup server and the destination IP 
addresses are those various servers at the remote site. The whatsup 
server is doing the ICMP sweep those servers and it is a valid event

I would like to know why this happens only just recently whereas I 
should see this event on the first day I got the whatsup server in 
place. Is it possible that this is false positive reports? How can you 
show that it is a false positive events? Hope to get some help here.
Thanks


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Hee Kiong Lau
Danawan Technologies Sdn Bhd
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