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ASF GitHub Bot commented on ARTEMIS-1653:
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Github user mtaylor commented on the issue:

    https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/1997
  
    +1 Franz.
    
    On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, 07:27 nlippke, <notificati...@github.com> wrote:
    
    > @franz1981 <https://github.com/franz1981> I totally agree. Broker should
    > not run any DDL-Statements if tables are managed by a DBA.
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> Allow database tables to be created externally
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: ARTEMIS-1653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-1653
>             Project: ActiveMQ Artemis
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Broker
>    Affects Versions: 2.4.0
>            Reporter: Niels Lippke
>            Assignee: Francesco Nigro
>            Priority: Major
>             Fix For: 2.5.1
>
>
> In some environments (e.g. production) it is not allowed that applications 
> create their own schema. It's common practice to pass DDL-Statetements to 
> DBAs instead prior to rollout.
> Currently the broker does not support this scenario. If the required tables 
> already exist the broker fails to start.
> A better approach is that if the broker detects empy tables and initializes 
> them in the very same way it does if the tables dont't exist.
> See also discussion in 
> [forum|http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/ARTEMIS-Server-doesn-t-start-if-JDBC-store-is-used-and-table-NODE-MANAGER-STORE-is-empty-td4735779.html].



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